• Griseowulfin@sh.itjust.works
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    Beehaw mods had issues moderating a flood of new users and low quality posts from here. As they put it, it was more “we don’t have the tools and staff to handle tons of new people” and less “we don’t like SIJW”.

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      Good explanation.

      If I remember correctly they defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they were two huge and largely unmoderated instances but did say that they’d like to refederate if solid moderation was put in place.

      The SIJW admin and them had talks and agreed that they’d refederate when Lemmy would have decent moderation tools that allowed for that, which hasn’t happened yet.

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        If what you’re saying is accurate, and these huge communities are largely unmoderated, then we have a pretty outstanding community here on Lemmy. Can you imagine the hate, vitriol, and absolute trash that would be visible if Twitter or Reddit were unmoderated? Yes we have some weird opinions and content, but nothing I’ve seen is overtly dangerous or hateful. Pretty cool, Lemmy. Pretty cool.

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          A lot of it is self-selecting IMO. We’re big enough to have a good sized community, but we aren’t so big as to become a big target. That will change as Lemmy gets bigger, but it least for now, it’s small enough that the trolls probably don’t get enough attention to bother sticking around.

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          If you want trash, you can find it on Lemmy, just check the list of most defederated instances. You don’t see it because… well, they’re defederated, which itself is one of the moderation tools available in the Fediverse.

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        Because sign ups were totally open during the Reddit Exodus was what started it, it lead to a huge influx of new users that had access to their instance while they run a tight show over there…

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      I hope we’ll get to a place where they’ll refederate with us. They have some really interesting communities. I didn’t sign up for an account there because I wasn’t willing to write a 7 page essay and take the blood oath to be admitted. I’m exaggerating… a little.

      They want to be the “Elks Lodge” of the fediverse and that’s totally fine. They were pretty transparent about their reasons for defederating with us and their reasons were understandable.

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            So what, what’s wrong about expressing “I don’t like this”? How’s that different from expressing “I like this”?

            The only “toxicity” is that it seems there are downvote trolls, so almost every post automatically gets a downvote immediately. But you can just ignore if you only have that one or two downvotes. If you can’t handle that, you can’t be surprised if you get called a snowflake.

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              More applicable to comments than posts… Used as “I don’t like this” stifles conversation. For example, the comment that we’re replying to has been downvoted two to one. It’s a legitimate comment that is worthy of conversation but that won’t happen because downvoting is being used as a “I don’t like this” button. It inevitably creates an echo chamber.

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                I don’t get that argument. Sometimes I just don’t have the time or can’t be bothered to write a comment, and a downvote serves as a perfect, fast replacement to indicate my disagreement.

                Echo chambers are created exactly when you can’t express youe disagreement easily. If all you need is an upvote to agree, but need to comment to disagree.

                I hear there’s this thing called ratio on Twitter, a comparison betwen something and something else, idk I don’t use it. But you know what would be just as useful? Upvotes and downvotes.

                I’m tired now, today I’ll only be downvoting what I don’t like :p

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                  These are the same people who say “let people like things” but they don’t want you to be able to dislike things and totally ignore that there are legitimate reasons to dislike some things. Then they call anything they dislike “toxic” and don’t see any disconnect.

                  Being defederated from beehaw doesn’t seem so bad as from what I’ve seen they represent the overly sensitive, are offended by everything crowd, who, while I largely agree with many of their views, are just exhausting to deal with.

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                  I’m not sure if Lemmy collapses heavily downvoted posts like Reddit does, but if it does it is also playing a part in creating an echo chamber.

                  I personally don’t have a very strong opinion about up-/downvotes but in general I try to stick to only downvoting comments that are not contributing or down right hostile. I refuse to downvote a comment that is attempting to discuss something in a proper manner, even if I completely disagree.

                  I get your point about it being harder to agree than disagreeing with this type of mindset though, so it’s not perfect.

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                  The echo chamber effect comes from mass downvoting of dissenting comments by a dedicated faction or the hive mind and mass upvoting by the same. The ticket to virtual popularity is popular soundbites.

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                  A more perfect(*) solution would be separating sorting by relevance (formerly up-/downvote) from emotional reactions. There’s the possibility of having a range of emoji reactions: agree, disagree, inaccurate, like it, bookmarked it, dislike it, find it funny, makes me happy, makes me sad, loveyou for this, what the fuck, find it’s bullshit, (etc. but this is not necessarily a good selection). Some of the reactions (disagree, inaccurate …) could also require a comment of at least (n) words to be left.

                  (*) oxymoron intentional

                  Edit: See here what people interested in development are opining about this idea: Add emoji reactions to posts, comments. #29

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                  “Ratioed” on Twitter is when a post has more comments than likes/favorites/whatever. Twitter doesn’t have downvotes. So, more comments than heart things suggests the post is disliked or controversial, as it’s presumed that otherwise people commenting would have also “liked” it or whatever it’s called on Twitter.

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                  Downvotes hide discussion, and upvotes make them more visible. That’s not what you want if your goal is to eliminate the echo chamber. Perhaps we should change the default sort to sort by controversial (i.e. lots of votes on both ends).

                  For example, let’s say there are two comments:

                  1. funny comment largely unrelated to the topic
                  2. detailed comment with extensive sources, but goes against the common opinion

                  The first comment is likely to be near the top, and the second will likely be buried near the bottom, and perhaps hidden (e.g. Reddit auto-hides if a comment goes too negative). That’s not what you want if your goal is to have productive conversations.

                  From my experience, people are less likely to click the upvote when they agree with something or think it’s relevant than they are to click the downvote button when they disagree. For some reason, disagreement is more likely to provoke a response than agreement. So if you eliminate the downvote as an option, you’ll likely get people only voting on things that are relevant or really important to them. It doesn’t solve the whole problem, but it at least seems to help a bit.

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                Oh ffs, I wasn’t even talking about you specifically, the “you” was just generally addressing anyone, but yea I see it applies you completely.

                Don’t worry, I won’t bother you with my “attacks” any longer, in fact I’ll rather block you outright, because I can’t stand people like you who scream “attack” or other bullshit accusations whenever someone is just in their vicinity. So I’ll never reply to you ever again, win-win!

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                I don’t see anything in the comment that I see as a personal attack. The person you replied to used “you,” but I think that was meant as a general “you” (i.e. other people reading this) rather than you specifically.

                I generally agree with you, but only for popular subs. In more niche communities, downvotes seem to do a better job of showing which posts are useful and which aren’t, but once you get enough people involved, it seems to devolve into a popularity contest.

                I would like to try something a bit different, more akin to what Twitter does. Basically, if a comment gets a ton of comments under it, it should be sorted more highly than one that doesn’t. Maybe that way we can eliminate votes entirely, or keep upvotes and downvotes as a form of agree/disagree but reduce their impact on sorting.

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                While in very formal English “one” is the generic pronoun and “you” is addressed to you personally, in casual English “you” is the generic pronoun with the same meaning as formal written French “on”.

                So the post above wasn’t a personal attack. It used “you” to mean “one”.

                Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

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              Anyone who cares about downvotes needs to get their head examined. A downvote can mean the person doesn’t agree with your comment, doesn’t like your tone, thinks you are incorrect, thinks the comment doesn’t add to the discussion, hell they could downvote you just because they don’t like your username. None of that matters. All it does is show you if your comment goes against the zeitgeist or not.

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                The whole point is that people can downvote you for any stupid reason and doesn’t accurately reflect why a post is being rejected by the community. People will do it simply because they want to silence you.

                And it causes issues with brigading, botnets, etc. It’s why hexbear and lemmygrad are being defederated – and their members are able to get around it simply by making accounts on other servers and going right back to the brigading. Removing the voting option and giving admins tools to IP ban everyone from an instance upon defederation would go a long way toward fixing the problem. Just putting the hurdle of needing a VPN to regain access alone will deter a lot of idiots.

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                That’s my biggest problem with downvotes. I want to know why someone disagrees. That can initiate an interesting conversation.

                If I’m factually incorrect, I want to know. Same goes if I expressed myself poorly. A downvote alone doesn’t tell me anything.

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                  I’ve had plenty of times where a comment I made got downvoted like crazy, but a response I made to a comment asking for clarification got a lot of upvotes. It seems people really like to jump on that downvote button, especially if they see something already getting downvotes (i.e. maybe they don’t even read it, they just downvote on reflex).

                  Votes happen to be really easy to deal with in software, which is probably why they’re so commonly used. However, when it comes to people actually casting votes, they behave a lot differently than software creators expect.

                  So perhaps we should try something else, like maybe sort by “activity” (how many times the comment was replied to) to sort of counteract that reflex-like urge to use it as an agree/disagree button (if you agree or disagree strongly, you’re likely to comment).

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                +80/-20 +50/-50 +20/-80 +1/-99 +100/-0

                Just from those vote counts, I can be pretty sure the first comment is insightful, the second controversial, the third a troll, and the fourth is definitely spam. The fifth is probably a cat pic, relevant xkcd, meme, or a single-sentence comment that everyone loves, but doesn’t actually add anything important to the topic. If I’m looking for an interesting conversation, I’m focused on the first two, maybe the third. If I’m looking to be pissed off, the third and fourth. And if I’m looking for an easy read, the fifth.

                +80, +50, +20, +1, and +100 doesn’t provide the same information. It’s the downvotes that provide the relative context.

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                it isn’t sorting by “contribute/doesn’t contribute,” that’s for sure.

                It’s both. You’re not wrong with the groupthink thing, but they absolutely do help to combat disinformation and useless comments. I get that you’ve made a decision, but you don’t need to rationalize away the negatives.

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              You can’t hide behind the guise of anonymity.

              Actually, on Beehaw, you can. If Beehaw has the equivalent of kbin’s “activity” info, I haven’t found it.

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                Votes still get federated. Even if not exposed via UI anyone running their own (federated) instance can query for who voted on beehaw posts. Only a matter of time before that’s directly exposed as a mod tool.

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            I upvoted this post even though I don’t agree with it. See the downvoted pic of the girl taking a shit to see why I think downvotes are needed at times.

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                The word “community” goes a long way in answering that question imo.

                If we look to the mods take care of everything, we’re a group of content consumers, not a community.

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                Sometimes mods are asleep or not locked to their desks. Downvotes help get shit like that (pun fully intended) out of most peoples feeds unless they are browsing by new or are way way way down on the hot scroll list.

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            Nah, we just need to interpret downvotes differently. If we count the votes the right way, it doesn’t really matter if we use downvotes to indicate disagreement.

            Reddit used to provide a tally of both upvotes and downvotes, rather than just the sum total of the two. The best top-level comments often had hundreds of both upvotes and downvotes, and vibrant discussions always followed. The quality of Reddit conversation dropped precipitously after they combined up and down votes into a sum total. They made it impossible to find the +500/-498 comments among the +4/-2 comments, calling each of them “+2” with a controversial tag, even though one was highly relevant, and the other was almost completely irrelevant.

            A “vote” indicates a strong opinion on the subject, and is the more important metric to consider than the specific composition of the votes. Up or down, any vote is saying “check out this opinion”.

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              I totally agree here. And I want to take it a step further and instead of sorting by average votes, we should merely be including it as one of many indicators, such as:

              • number of direct child comments
              • number of total descendant comments
              • maybe length of direct child comments - a longer response is more likely to be an interesting rebuttal than a “go away troll” comment
              • number of independent users among total descendant comments - if it’s just the same two people going back and forth, that’s just a good, old-fashioned argument that most won’t care to read

              And so on. But instead, we seem to just sort by upvotes - downvotes and call it a day.

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            It is functionally a “I don’t like this” or “I’m right” button.

            Sometimes comments are just wrong, and detract from the community. Downvotes (plus an interface that hides negative voted comments) clean things up without need for formal moderation.

            Whatever can be said about downvotes (an automated system for marking one’s disapproval) is probably true of reporting (a human reviewed system for marking one’s extreme disapproval), too.

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                All this does is bury comments regardless of quality

                But if downvotes (and upvotes) are well correlated with quality, then what’s the problem? Your complaints are about community culture around downvotes, not about the mechanism itself.

                I’d love to see a system where votes can be correlated between users so that the ranking algorithm weights like-minded voters and deemphasizes those voters you disagree with, but that would probably create a pretty significant overhead for the service.

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        I didn’t sign up for an account there because I wasn’t willing to write a 7 page essay

        Yeah, you’re not welcome. Everyone calling a couple questions an “essay”, can shitpost somewhere else. I’m not exaggerating a bit, if someone can’t be bothered to think through a couple answers ONCE, I don’t trust them to think through the rest of their comments either.

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        To me, low-quality is when someone replies “lol” or “no you’re wrong lmao” vs a thoughtful post of multiple sentences.

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        Except that wasn’t how they described it. They said they were getting a lot of posts that required moderator action, and people there said it was trolls and harassment.

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          A lot of NSFL stuff not tagged, a lot of blatantly transphobic and homophobic stuff meant to upset beehaw users since it’s designed to be a diverse and welcoming space. Definitively not “lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works users were posting a lot of low effort memes” and much more “a small subset of lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works users are gaming the open sign ups to make the lives of our users worse”

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            Exactly - that description was kind of frustrating. It makes it sound like they took a drastic action to deal with a very mild annoyance, when apparently that wasn’t the case

            I’ve said before that I think Beehaw’s goal of a harassment-free and troll-free space is unlikely to succeed on a federated platform, but I respect their right to give it a shot and their actions seem reasonable given the situation.

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      Man that is weird. Thank you for the link; I have such mixed feelings.

      On the one hand, yes I think it makes a ton of sense to vet your userbase if you want to cultivate a particular sort of discussion (i.e., you want thoughtful comments vs shitposts and memes). OTOH, the response reads like a “For WUSSIES ONLY” want ad. It’s the internet dude, toughen up a little. For the same reason, HOLY SHIT how do you have an instance without downvote? You can’t curate content on moderation a lone. But then, maybe that’s why they are defederated.

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        It’s the internet dude, toughen up a little.

        That is such a weird take. People go and create a space deliberately aimed at making people feel more welcome than on the rest of the internet, and you come and shit on it because… Why? Are people not allowed to create and seek out spaces where they’re at least semi-protected from the bullshit greeting them everywhere else? Or do you feel entitled to interact with everyone on the internet however you like, regardless of their needs, and are upset to find out that sometimes, you can’t?

        I’m glad for you that you don’t have the need for a place like beehaw, but other people sometimes just want to take a break from all the bullshit, and they have every right to do so, even on the internet.

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          Can you not smell the irony here?

          “Nobody needs to listen to your crass and entitled take on safe spaces; think of their needs! Here is my entitled and intentionally provocative take on YOUR take, fuck your needs stranger.”

          Fortunately, this is not beehaw so we can have this enlightened exchange of ideas.

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            There’s no irony here, that’s exactly how it’s supposed to work. My point is not that every space on the internet needs to be as protected as beehaw. My point is that it’s valid for people to create and seek out spaces like beehaw if they feel like it, and to be protective of them, which you didn’t seem to understand. But of course it’s just as valid to not need that and engage in the kind of argument we’re having here right now, because different places can have different rules, and that’s totally fine, as long as you respect the rules of whatever place you interact with.

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              I’m not in beehaw, I’m out here in a reality-based internet forum. I see why people might want something protected, but that doesn’t make it less weird to me, and it IS totally fine to think that it’s weird.

              Beehaw is to Lemmy (or any open forum on the internet) as planet fitness is to fitness. It’s idealized and safe to the point that it no longer really fits in it’s category. You can make the internet nice the same way you can get fit on bagels and donuts while walking the track: by pretending.

              Nothing is wrong with pretend, but if you ever watch LARP you’ll understand that it’s strange to come across in the wild when adults do it.

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                What are you even talking about. The people on beehaw are not trying to pretend that the internet as such is nice. They are creating a community with a specific code of conduct, and that is just as real as any other place on the internet. You can still talk about shitty stuff, and you can have dissent, conflict and discussion on there, nobody pretends that that all doesn’t exist. The only requirement is that you approach with respect and well-meaning by default for everyone around, there’s nothing else to it. On the contrary, I feel like people who don’t want to follow these rules are the ones pretending - pretending that they’re not interacting with real people, that anything they say doesn’t affect others.

                You seem to be under the impression that any “nice” space must be fake, because, I don’t know, people are inherently not nice, or something, and thus everyone must be just pretending? That’s a pretty sad way to view the world, and absolutely not true in my experience. I know plenty of great places and communities made of people that just genuinely want the best for others by default, both online and offline, and it takes no pretending, it only takes a bit of caution to keep the very few people out that are not there to participate constructively and can’t or don’t want to clear the pretty low bar of respect and well-meaning.

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        It’s the internet dude, toughen up a little.

        What, can’t take getting kicked out of the care bear club, tough guy? Their tiny wussie banhammers too much for you? Go ahead, downvote me, show everyone ALL your power!

        (Hi, this is my non-beehaw alt.)

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          I don’t get it? I’m happy to chat and be called a retard or whatever. Downvotes also fine. I just like to chat / argue/ debate.

          I don’t care about beehaw specifically. The post here says something like even one negative experience can take a huge amount of effort to undo… Really? Is it all that serious on the internet?

          I’m not trying to bait you or be shitty or anything. Why does it matter so much?

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            Different people take things different ways, some have been taking shit all their life, some are at a breaking point, some are already broken and trying to pick up the pieces.

            If you haven’t experienced any of that, then congratulations, you’re one of the lucky and/or young and/or sociopathic ones. Go out there and have fun! Break a leg, lose a finger, get mauled, set your hair on fire, get drowned, have people you trusted call you names dozens of times a day for a couple decades, get abused, beaten down… and when you’ve had enough, go on the internet.

            Stuff isn’t “all that serious on the internet”, it gets serious IRL.

            After that, some people go on the internet and don’t feel like taking even the slightest extra bit of shit, so they don’t participate, communities degenerate exponentially, leaving behind only memes and shit flingers, a corpse full of “tough guys” where any serious debate is dead before arrival. Not a problem if you have ads or sell blue checkmarks though!

            To avoid that, Beehaw has a single main rule: be nice. Don’t know how to chat/argue/debate while being nice to each other? Well, there is your chance to learn, the community will be glad to help if you’re serious. Or just hop on and unwind for a while. If you try to stir shit up though, you get shown the door.

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              Sounds like a fine reason not to federate with beehaw to me. If you need a space to be safe safe, you’re better off not having people like me close to it.

              The world isnt nice. Neither am I :).

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                It works both ways, really. You don’t want to be close when a nice guy snaps.

                Safe spaces are not just to feel safe from you, they’re also to keep staying nice.

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    Let beehaw do beehaw things and don’t worry too much about it.

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    To add to what others have said, the reason beehaw defederated is because they have particular rules (eg no downvotes) that they’re very strict about to ensure that their instance is the safe space they want it to be. It’s not so much that lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works users were acting up against beehaw, just that beehaw expects users to be very well behaved in their instance.

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        I have noticed a trend within myself, similar to out of state plates, that once I notice one rude user from an instance I spend a few days seeing other users from that instance being rude and goings “figures”

        never mind I encounter many perfectly pleasant users from that instance

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    My experience on Beehaw so far is that 80% of them are nice and 20% of them are Portlandia characters.

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      I have an alt there, the admin defederated due to the infamous literal shit spammer.

      It might be worth informing him that the issue has been solved

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            Its down at the very bottom of this thread sitting at -35 votes and still not removed by a mod. I reported it, but I’m also from a different instance and may or may not have burned a few bridges with the management of this instance on my way out

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    You can’t say “we” on a fediverse system, because the post is gonna be seen by everyone everywhere. I’m not on sh.itjust.works, I’m viewing your post on kbin, and it’s also gonna be seen on all the other lemmy servers that are federated with yours.

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        That’s my point exactly. Their title asks “Does anyone know why we’re defederated from beehaw?” but the majority of people reading this post will be on instances that AREN’T defederated with beehaw. The post needs to say “Does anyone know why sh.itjust.works is defederated from beehaw?”

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          I mean it doesn’t take much critical thinking to realize defederation is per instance, so mayyybbbeee they’re talking about the instance they’re both part of and posting in.

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            It takes two seconds to mention the instance when talking about an instance specific topic.

            Stop trying to discourage suggestions to improve clarity.

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              you could also stop browsing other instances main?

              Takes 1 second to think about it, even less time

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                I’m seeing this from just the All page on kbin. That’s where I find other communities I may want to join.

                I have not left my instance to see this post.

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                  Yet this is a post from another instance yes?

                  So maybe this is where that critical thinking comes in, if you set out to view other instances, don’t be afraid if you just happen upon other instances

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                  This is a Kbin problem with not showing the instance name for communities and users. The solution is for kbin to fix it’s UI not for users to add unnecessary information to their post titles.

                  I suggest you make a post in the Kbin meta magazine if this bothers you instead of complaining to people who did nothing wrong.

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                I don’t browse other instances’ main, they show up under All together from any federated instance on kbin.

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                Pretty much everyone is seeing it just by looking at their instance’s homepage, they’re not browsing on sh.itjust.works’s page. If you post on your instance’s main page, then EVERYONE on EVERY instance will see it on THEIR instance’s homepage too. That’s how federation works.

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                  So, in addition to posting in a community specific page I should also clarify for idiots who don’t know how the technology they’re using or who can’t take a moment and think for themselves about what’s flashing on their screens?

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                  You mean if youre viewing all? Then yeah you might get all posts (no friggin way). This is where that critical thinking comes in

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              You’re suggesting that every single post to this community mentions the instance name?

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          They posted on the community for discussing the server they’re on. There’s some onus on you to look at what communities someone is posting to

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          It’s further exacerbated if you’re using apps that don’t immediately show the instance a post is from

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            Even so, the image that this post is discussing specifically mentions the sh.itjust.works instance. So even if your app sucks, the linked post gives you all the context you need to understand that this is specifically discussing the sh.itjust.works instance.

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          The majority of people are reading this either from Lemmy’s UI, or from some app for Lemmy, both of which clearly show which community+instance this was posted to.

          Ask kbin devs to fix their UI and do the same.

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      There appears to be some miscommunication between instances in this thread regarding how posts appear from other communities. I think many arguments are stemming from this, so to clear things up:

      It is trivial for users on sh.itjust.works to see what is posted where. It is less obvious for kbin.social users to do the same. Personally, I think it’s a kbin issue for not surfacing enough post information.