• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    I’m not Canadian, but I think that anyone who has watched a loved one suffer and wither and die in agony from cancer would argue that you deserve to know when you’re putting yourself at risk of that.

    None of those warning labels seem excessive or pointless anymore after watching the last months of my father’s life.

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      3 days ago

      Have you watched someone die who didn’t drink?

      Was it more pleasant?

      Do you support MAID, but oppose all things that make life pleasant but may result in premature death? If so, why?

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        Yes, I have. It was much more pleasant.

        Watch someone live in agony for months, then come back and be a smart ass.

        Edit: also, why the fuck would anything you said above matter? Nobody is telling you that you can’t drink, they just want to make sure you know and accept the risks.

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          Currently watching someone live in agony and slowly die from non-alcohol related cancer, you don’t have a monopoly on pain.

          Edit: also, why the fuck would anything you said above matter? Nobody is telling you that you can’t drink, they just want to make sure you know and accept the risks.

          No, that’s what education and information campaigns do. You tell people about the dangers of something. Putting warning labels on it is what you do to nag someone every single time they try and enjoy something.

          We will all die, and most of the ways to die are horrendously unpleasant. Spend your life slapping warning labels on burnt toast and avoiding going into the sun if you’re that scared of the inevitable and see if it makes you happy.

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            “You just need to educate and inform!!!”

            “Ok, we’ll educate and inform people using a proven method we’ve already successfully implemented with cigarettes”

            “No not like that!!”

            I may not have a monopoly on pain, but you’re certainly trying hard to have one on being intentionally obtuse.

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          It’s not a contest, it’s a frank acknowledgement that we will all die and a tiny fraction of the ways to die are pleasant.

          Most of us will get cancer or heart disease or dementia and slowly whither away regardless of how we live our lives. At some point, min/maxing and being ultra cautious is utterly pointless.

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              If you want to engage in a discussion about when min / maxing risk-taking vs life-expectancy makes sense on a personal, or regulatory level, I’m all ears…

              Otherwise, good contribution. 👏👏👏