• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    This is the straw man:

    Way I see it, you have two competing overarching theories, “spontaneous order” and “orchestrated order”.

    You’re assuming that there is order and working backwards.

    Sometimes people try to explain the formation of these theories in terms of fulfillment of an emotional need (“they can’t accept this would just happen so they need to pretend someone is in control”), which is just inaccurate.

    You didn’t explain how that was inaccurate. You just said they were using a “mental model”. Why are they using that mental model, though? It’s because they need somebody to be in control.

    This has actually been studied. Sociologists have studied conspiracy theorists, and they are often people with control issues.

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      5 days ago

      This is the straw man:

      Way I see it, you have two competing overarching theories, “spontaneous order” and “orchestrated order”.

      I mean “order” in the sense of “enforced form”. The shape of things, namely, a broader, shared agenda of government and major corps. And I’m not assuming it, I’m describing the content of theories.

      You didn’t explain how that was inaccurate. You just said they were using a “mental model”. Why are they using that mental model, though? It’s because they need somebody to be in control.

      I did explain it, actually.

      This has actually been studied. Sociologists have studied conspiracy theorists, and they are often people with control issues.

      Correlation and causation issue? Point to the studies, show their methods and conclusions (although IMHO don’t bother).