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    4 years ago

    Wait a second… you think that each individual country’s efforts ( China, Russia, US, Cuba ) to create their own vaccines, are each “scams” by each of those country’s medical professionals?

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        4 years ago

        Yes, you can check the modlog, we don’t allow anti-vaxx like conspiracy theorists here. Answer the question above, if covid is “cured”, then why are all these countries separately developing vaccines?

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          4 years ago

          From Lemmy’s code of conduct:

          • “Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.”

          Apparently this doesn’t apply for the Admin.

          • “We will exclude you from interaction if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. We interpret the term “harassment” as including the definition in the Citizen Code of Conduct; if you have any lack of clarity about what might be included in that concept, please read their definition. In particular, we don’t tolerate behavior that excludes people in socially marginalized groups.”

          So calling someone a “conspiracy nerd” isn’t considered a insult?

          I’m not saying that I agree or disagree with @disrooter but this kind of censorship is very dangerous. If you don’t agree to someone, isn’t that why the down-vote button is there?

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            4 years ago

            You can spread anti vaxx conspiracy theories elsewhere, we don’t allow them here. Two people pm’d me about disroots comment in an hour.

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              4 years ago

              As I said in my other reply, you and whoever told me had to ask for clarification first.

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            4 years ago

            Yeah this is censorship but I disagree with a point: I think the downvote button is for not-relevant comments, not the one we disagree with.

            Even controversial comments should be upvoted if relevant. Otherwise the votes will reward demagogy and kill the debate, and in the long term will make ideas stagnate or regress and creating more extremism.

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          4 years ago

          P.S. “Anti-vax” and “conspiracy theory” are labels you are using. Let it be clear that I completely reject them.

          I made a consideration on how the media present the vaccines for Sars-Cov2. Your reaction seems exaggerated and compulsive to me.

          First you deleted the comment and then you asked for an explanation. Does it seem normal to you?

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              This question is based on wrong assumptions by you about my ideas.

              Vaccines are tools. Your decision on when and how to use tools is based on the available informations. I said media have a conflict of interest and their information is not objective.

              You have proved that I am right: you do not know that Sars-Cov2 infection can be cured because the media do not talk about it enough or even boycott the treatments.

              The fact that the infection can be cured doesn’t make vaccines completely useless, that’s your conclusion. But if all people were properly informed, many would prefer not to get the vaccine and Big Pharma would have less money. The media are presenting the vaccine as the solution to the pandemic and saying this is not true is not an “anti-vax conspiracy theory”.

              If you are a doctor I can show you the groups and organizations of thousands of Italian doctors who for a year have treated tens of thousands of people with protocols known all over the world. You can go to them to ask for technical clarifications if you are a doctor. You can also try to contact them and tell them that what they do is all fake and the infection cannot be cured, if you have the courage.

              Instead, I expect an apology and my comment restored. Your inability to understand what I have written cannot interfere with my freedom of thought. You and whoever reported me had to ask for clarification first.