• Orbituary@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    60
    ·
    2 months ago

    Rewriting the headling: “Most Americans Don’t Understand Nuance.”

    Article body, summarized: “People are too stupid to understand that you can disagree with a candidate’s stance but still recognize that they’re a better choice than the fascist, sexist, predatory, federally indicted criminal.”

    News at 11.

    • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yep. It’s like how you say “I’m voting for Harris but I don’t like her track record of issues important to me, but she’s not Trump and that’s what matters.” and people instantly harass you into being okay with fracking and murder.

      • chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        I feel like a lot of this is Russian bots stirring shit up, Israel is the perfect thing to get people not to vote at all, which is exactly what they want, that’s basically a vote for trump but people are either too privileged or stupid to realize it

        • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          Hey I’m voting for Harris, I just think its important to call out bad takes from anyone, including those who I vote for. I do it for my local and my federal offices. I email my republican congress members (they don’t respond beyond the default robot reply) and I complain to my democratic senators.

          • corsicanguppy
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Hey I’m voting for Harris, I just think its important to call out bad takes from anyone

            Oh god; how many fucking times this has been explained.

            1. publically disparage imperfect non-conservative leadership candidate
            2. fewer people vote for that person because of the sea of over-advertised issues - which exist on every candidate but are associated with just the one
            3. fewer people voting - low voter turnout - has been shown many times to inordinately favour conservative candidates because of their strong loyalty uber-alles schtick
            4. conservative candidate wins
            5. 90% of people are worse off, and are sad, and all from ‘calling out bad takes from anyone’.

            Preserve the ability to protest. Then protest afterward if we still have the right.

        • swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          2 months ago

          Anything I don’t like is foreign interference, I’m okay with voting for a candidate that endorses genocide, anyone that doesn’t share my views is stupid

          Hell yeah brother. I’m also proud to be a part of the freest country in the universe. 👏More👏trans👏drone👏pilots👏

          • chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 months ago

            Genocide or fascism+genocide, pick one, because those are your two choices at the moment, and not picking counts as a vote for fascism+genocide

            Grow up

            • swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              2 months ago

              I live in one of the reddest states in the country, my vote literally doesn’t matter. Thanks democracy

          • corsicanguppy
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            freest country in the universe

            Aaron Sorkin wrote it best:

            Will McAvoy : [Turns to Lewis] And with a straight face, you’re gonna tell students that America is so star-spangled awesome that we’re the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom. Japan has freedom. The UK. France. Italy. Germany. Spain. Australia… Belgium! has freedom… 207 sovereign states in the world, like 180 of 'em have freedom.

            Also Jeff Daniels in arguably his best scene and/or best role. What a great show.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      “Most Americans Don’t Understand Nuance.”

      Most people, regardless of nationality, don’t understand nuance. That’s why Winston Churchill once said that the biggest argument against democracy is talking to an average person for five minutes.

      • Orbituary@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        God damnit, I knew someone would do this. Case in point this is specifically about the American elections, therefore the nuanced implication refers to that.

        Yes, this can be extended. But you’re now being inclusive of the rest of the world’s shortcomings for what? The article is about Chappell Roan and the morons bitching about her not endorsing Kamala. Not voters in the UK.

        • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Typical American think their experience is the only universal truth and their group only matters in any discussion.

          American exceptionalism never fails; as if Americans are the only ones getting the same problem.

          • Orbituary@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            I didn’t argue against that. Nor was it the topic of the article. But go on…

            • corsicanguppy
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              I didn’t argue against that.

              Yours is a sentence that takes on 5 different meanings based on which word is stressed when spoken.

              Also, you missed the nuance in what TD wrote. And that’s high comedy this early in my morning.

              • Orbituary@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                Yet they deleted the parallel comment deriding me for being “Murikan,” which seems to obviate any dual meaning. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your day.

    • ALQ@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Another correction of the headline:

      “Y’all Cannot Actually Be This Stupid”: an argument on how people are, in fact, this stupid.

    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      It certainly doesn’t help that most democrats see any criticism of Kamala as tacit support of Trump.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        There’s criticism, and then there’s “democrats and Harris are horrible genocidal people and you are supporting genocide if you vote for them” criticism.

        I don’t know of anyone making reasonable and realistic criticism getting downvoted.

        • xgranade@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          I mean, the trouble is that voting for Democrats does literally support genocide, if only because every president and presidential candidate in modern history has promised and/or enacted genocidal policies. When talking about US politics and genocide, the bar is so low, it’s in hell.

          The nuance to all of the above is that voting for Republicans supports genocide even more. It’s entirely valid to vote for less genocide amongst several genocidal options, and also to call said genocide out.

        • cristo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          Esperanto
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          Well, they certain arent trying hard enough to not look like genocide supporters