Nahh dude, they might not have anything to do with or any interest in Telsa, SpaceX or the hellscape that is Xitter so they wouldn’t need, want or care about Elon. Perhaps they are not an American citizen and live in one of the many of countries that’s not the USA so the whole Trump vs Kamala stuff doesn’t matter to them. Putin and the entire Israel and Palestine issue are problems but perhaps they have enough shit going on in their own life that they can’t afford to worry about a problem they have no control over.
Indirectly at best. Either way, what the fuck am i supposed to do with polling numbers in some US state or the latest despicable thing republicans say? I don’t vote in your election. Might as well declutter my feed from irrelevant info and acknowledge the result when it is over
Exactly this and the mass spam around it as soon as something happens. I get that it’s important but a bit annoying for a European to be constantly confronted with.
With the implication that i should care about your election because of it, which still makes no sense for anyone not voting in your election, which sums up to about everyone outside of the exceptionalism capital.
I never said you should care about every news story, I said the united states affects other countries, which it absolutely does. That was in response to someone saying the US elections are not something they care about because it didn’t affect them. But sure, it’s not the fact that the effects exist, no it’s just that I think my country is better than every other country. Spoiler alert, I’ve known for a long time it’s not, at all.
Assholes on the internet love to assume random shit to hate people for. It true makes the world a grimmer place.
Fair enough, though I must say that for me personally, as a german, nothing at all has changed in my life between having Obama, trump or Biden in office. Of course, what goes on politically in the states eventually affects the climate here as well, I was just arguing that not caring for the day to day business of foreign domestic politics is fine. Perhaps we argued over different things unintentionally.
What you are saying has some truth to it, but I don’t believe that just because you’re unable to name the effects makes them non-existent. There are still things today that Reagan unleashed on the world which people aren’t necessarily cognizant of, but they are still there.
I feel like we reached a point where you don’t need to be constantly watching the current state of it for it to matter. At this point you’re going to vote for what you’re going to vote for if you’re voting at all or if you’re even in a position to vote.
Dealing with a constant stream of it is honestly going to do nothing productive other than just piss you off one way or another and/or greatly increase your anxiety
So hostile. Have you considered that some people just use Lemmy for memes and have other means of keeping up with the dystopian nightmare bullshit du jour?
EDIT: And to clarify, I am responding to the general claim that none of this matters to anyone ever. That is what I take issue with. The claim the political process as a whole can be ignore despite the consequences of it
Not trans people
Not gay peoole
Not immigrants
Not people on Obamacare
Not people who like having a functional national weather service (Project 2025 wants to eliminate it)
Not the parents of kids in schools (project 2025 wants to also eliminate the department of education)
And so on
You may not think politics affects you, but its outcomes certainly do. Even if it didn’t, someone you care about can absolutely be affected
Or. For consideration, they already know exactly how they intend to vote after having done all the research they feel they need to and want to come to social media to be distracted from the world and it’s problems.
No one, including those groups you mentioned, should have to deal with a 24/7 onslaught of the emotional and mental stress that news can put in people. Being aware and having avenues of rest and relaxation is incredibly important.
Meanwhile there’s you somehow seems to be terminally online and trying to give some shit because they would like to not feel depressed and anxious. I suggest you consider stepping away from the Internet and touching some moss. Sounds like you need it friend.
The person you responded to literally said “ignore all those things without it mattering”, citing how it does, in fact, matter to some people.
If OP wants to unplug, fine, but as the saying goes, this isn’t an airport - you don’t need to announce your departure, or in this case, filtering of such posts.
By making this post, OP has upped the ante, in a potentially insensitive manner, whereupon their privileged status (presumably white and if not well-off then at least not very poor - or possibly not even living in the USA:-P) was brought up as being relevant. At least people are explaining, rather than merely downvoting.
The outcome of the election affects many people, including me. Whether or not I’m well-informed about everything “kamala” and “trump” do affects no one, since I’m not even an undecided voter in a swing state.
That’s not what I am responding to. I am responding to the claim of someone saying politics don’t matter at all to anyone ever. I find a great deal of issue with that
As a sidebar, voting still does matter a lot outside of swing states. Down ballot races are often way closer than you’d think even in deep blue or deep red states. Those local races also have a lot more importance than people think
Maybe not what you intended, but the phrasing there sounded a lot like saying that. “ignore all of those without it mattering” sounds like saying those topics themselves don’t matter. That’s how I ended up reading it
Guy walks into a funeral, and says to all the people inside: “But seriously, why so glum? You gotta learn to LIVE A LITTLE, hey? 😜”
i.e., I have no problem with people outside of the situation not being as sad as we who are, but I also don’t enjoy my face being rubbed into the fact that I cannot simply turn it off as easily - that’s a privilege that not everyone has.
But I suppose this is your chance to convince me: why should I, at a funeral, not be sad?
Because no matter how sad you get, it isn’t going to bring the deceased back.
There’s also a huge matter of intent. OP didn’t stroll into a funeral you were attending and be an ass. Lemmy isn’t your personal space for anything in particular, it’s a public forum. At absolute worst you held a funeral at an amusement park and are getting upset that they didn’t shut down the rides and that others are still having fun.
More seriously: What could you possibly need Lemmy to inform you about regarding these things? Are you undecided still somehow?
There’s a big difference between not wanting to swim in this shit in one social media app, and trying to shut it out entirely. I don’t need additional reminders about how shit things are, especially not ones with a peanut gallery spewing the same dumb jokes I’ve seen a million times.
Okay but don’t forget the chain here: there was OP, there were responses to OP, and there were responders to the responders to OP. Somewhere in those someone said that it was great that someone could ignore the sadness (“What a privileged life you must lead where you can simply ignore all those things without it mattering.”), i.e. that they had that privilege. You seem to agree, and I also agree insofar that if you want to block something, then do it - I’ve long advocated for such. But instead of responding with agreement the next person said:
Almost anyone can ignore all those things without it mattering.
Okay so do whatever you want… so long as others can do the same. My point with the funeral analogy was to say that if someone wants to be “not sad”, that’s totally fine, but why rub it in others faces, especially those who want to be “sad”? (again, not referring to OP here, nor the person responding to them, but the person responding to them)
e.g. black people very much are fearful that the likes of the KKK will ride openly again, and women are likewise very much feeling the impact of the reversal of the Roe v. Wade decisions, plus there’s that whole SCOTUS ruling awhile back…
Anyway, do whatever you want. So long as you allow others that same freedom as well, you won’t be a hypocrite.
As an uninvested european, are you undecided? No? Could either candidate do or say anything that might sway your vote, but not make headlines you will learn of anyway with it? No? Then why burden your mind with a constant torrent of negativity?
In the sense that I don’t live in a warzone, yes. Otherwise it’s more that I lack the economic privilege to be politically engaged, because every day is a struggle to attend to the bottom rung of my needs hierarchy.
I agree. OP is so pretentious and arrogant for not wanting to see posts they obviously don’t care about. How dare they not care about the things you and me find important? It’s just so irresponsible of them to have a different opinion of what they want to spend their free time viewing. Some people!
What a privileged life you must lead where you can simply ignore all those things without it mattering.
As if reading ragebait on lemmy is going to change the world, and as if you or anyone else on lemmy had any power to change the world anyway.
Lose the news addiction - choose life
Most users don’t live and will never set foot in the United States.
Let us be.
Ah yes, because the genocide in Palestine only affects people in the US
Nahh dude, they might not have anything to do with or any interest in Telsa, SpaceX or the hellscape that is Xitter so they wouldn’t need, want or care about Elon. Perhaps they are not an American citizen and live in one of the many of countries that’s not the USA so the whole Trump vs Kamala stuff doesn’t matter to them. Putin and the entire Israel and Palestine issue are problems but perhaps they have enough shit going on in their own life that they can’t afford to worry about a problem they have no control over.
One more thing to add: Israel/Palestine and Russia/Ukraine are just two of many active conflicts.
The United States president impacts countries around the globe.
As non-American I can’t vote in the US election and it gets real annoying to have every other post be one about how trump said some dumb bullshit
Have you tried a client that you can filter posts by keyword? You could just add trump or something similar to your filtered word list.
Indirectly at best. Either way, what the fuck am i supposed to do with polling numbers in some US state or the latest despicable thing republicans say? I don’t vote in your election. Might as well declutter my feed from irrelevant info and acknowledge the result when it is over
Exactly this and the mass spam around it as soon as something happens. I get that it’s important but a bit annoying for a European to be constantly confronted with.
Ah so if you judge the effects as “indirectly” then they can safely be ignored. All I did was point out a simple truth
With the implication that i should care about your election because of it, which still makes no sense for anyone not voting in your election, which sums up to about everyone outside of the exceptionalism capital.
I never said you should care about every news story, I said the united states affects other countries, which it absolutely does. That was in response to someone saying the US elections are not something they care about because it didn’t affect them. But sure, it’s not the fact that the effects exist, no it’s just that I think my country is better than every other country. Spoiler alert, I’ve known for a long time it’s not, at all.
Assholes on the internet love to assume random shit to hate people for. It true makes the world a grimmer place.
Fair enough, though I must say that for me personally, as a german, nothing at all has changed in my life between having Obama, trump or Biden in office. Of course, what goes on politically in the states eventually affects the climate here as well, I was just arguing that not caring for the day to day business of foreign domestic politics is fine. Perhaps we argued over different things unintentionally.
What you are saying has some truth to it, but I don’t believe that just because you’re unable to name the effects makes them non-existent. There are still things today that Reagan unleashed on the world which people aren’t necessarily cognizant of, but they are still there.
you guys are insane! nobody gives a shit, Were all just sorry for yall.
Sounds like it.
I feel like we reached a point where you don’t need to be constantly watching the current state of it for it to matter. At this point you’re going to vote for what you’re going to vote for if you’re voting at all or if you’re even in a position to vote.
Dealing with a constant stream of it is honestly going to do nothing productive other than just piss you off one way or another and/or greatly increase your anxiety
So hostile. Have you considered that some people just use Lemmy for memes and have other means of keeping up with the dystopian nightmare bullshit du jour?
Almost anyone can ignore all those things without it mattering.
I’m pretty sure the few people who can’t aren’t on Lemmy.
EDIT: And to clarify, I am responding to the general claim that none of this matters to anyone ever. That is what I take issue with. The claim the political process as a whole can be ignore despite the consequences of it
Not trans people
Not gay peoole
Not immigrants
Not people on Obamacare
Not people who like having a functional national weather service (Project 2025 wants to eliminate it)
Not the parents of kids in schools (project 2025 wants to also eliminate the department of education)
And so on
You may not think politics affects you, but its outcomes certainly do. Even if it didn’t, someone you care about can absolutely be affected
Or. For consideration, they already know exactly how they intend to vote after having done all the research they feel they need to and want to come to social media to be distracted from the world and it’s problems.
No one, including those groups you mentioned, should have to deal with a 24/7 onslaught of the emotional and mental stress that news can put in people. Being aware and having avenues of rest and relaxation is incredibly important.
Meanwhile there’s you somehow seems to be terminally online and trying to give some shit because they would like to not feel depressed and anxious. I suggest you consider stepping away from the Internet and touching some moss. Sounds like you need it friend.
That’s not at all how the person I was replying to phrased it. They said it didn’t matter for anyone at all ever
That’s what I take far more issue with
The person you responded to literally said “ignore all those things without it mattering”, citing how it does, in fact, matter to some people.
If OP wants to unplug, fine, but as the saying goes, this isn’t an airport - you don’t need to announce your departure, or in this case, filtering of such posts.
By making this post, OP has upped the ante, in a potentially insensitive manner, whereupon their privileged status (presumably white and if not well-off then at least not very poor - or possibly not even living in the USA:-P) was brought up as being relevant. At least people are explaining, rather than merely downvoting.
The outcome of the election affects many people, including me. Whether or not I’m well-informed about everything “kamala” and “trump” do affects no one, since I’m not even an undecided voter in a swing state.
That’s not what I am responding to. I am responding to the claim of someone saying politics don’t matter at all to anyone ever. I find a great deal of issue with that
As a sidebar, voting still does matter a lot outside of swing states. Down ballot races are often way closer than you’d think even in deep blue or deep red states. Those local races also have a lot more importance than people think
I didn’t claim that politics don’t matter at all to anyone ever. That would be a silly thing for me to say.
Maybe not what you intended, but the phrasing there sounded a lot like saying that. “ignore all of those without it mattering” sounds like saying those topics themselves don’t matter. That’s how I ended up reading it
American politics may not affect them. Not everyone online is American.
That’s not at all how the person I was replying to phrased it. They said it didn’t matter for anyone at all ever
That’s what I take far more issue with
Guy walks into a funeral, and says to all the people inside: “But seriously, why so glum? You gotta learn to LIVE A LITTLE, hey? 😜”
i.e., I have no problem with people outside of the situation not being as sad as we who are, but I also don’t enjoy my face being rubbed into the fact that I cannot simply turn it off as easily - that’s a privilege that not everyone has.
But I suppose this is your chance to convince me: why should I, at a funeral, not be sad?
Because no matter how sad you get, it isn’t going to bring the deceased back.
There’s also a huge matter of intent. OP didn’t stroll into a funeral you were attending and be an ass. Lemmy isn’t your personal space for anything in particular, it’s a public forum. At absolute worst you held a funeral at an amusement park and are getting upset that they didn’t shut down the rides and that others are still having fun.
More seriously: What could you possibly need Lemmy to inform you about regarding these things? Are you undecided still somehow?
There’s a big difference between not wanting to swim in this shit in one social media app, and trying to shut it out entirely. I don’t need additional reminders about how shit things are, especially not ones with a peanut gallery spewing the same dumb jokes I’ve seen a million times.
Okay but don’t forget the chain here: there was OP, there were responses to OP, and there were responders to the responders to OP. Somewhere in those someone said that it was great that someone could ignore the sadness (“What a privileged life you must lead where you can simply ignore all those things without it mattering.”), i.e. that they had that privilege. You seem to agree, and I also agree insofar that if you want to block something, then do it - I’ve long advocated for such. But instead of responding with agreement the next person said:
Okay so do whatever you want… so long as others can do the same. My point with the funeral analogy was to say that if someone wants to be “not sad”, that’s totally fine, but why rub it in others faces, especially those who want to be “sad”? (again, not referring to OP here, nor the person responding to them, but the person responding to them)
e.g. black people very much are fearful that the likes of the KKK will ride openly again, and women are likewise very much feeling the impact of the reversal of the Roe v. Wade decisions, plus there’s that whole SCOTUS ruling awhile back…
Anyway, do whatever you want. So long as you allow others that same freedom as well, you won’t be a hypocrite.
As an uninvested european, are you undecided? No? Could either candidate do or say anything that might sway your vote, but not make headlines you will learn of anyway with it? No? Then why burden your mind with a constant torrent of negativity?
I live in California actually. You can be sad, but like your joke said, live a little.
All those people can live their lives just fine without seeing political posts on Lemmy.
You have a responsibility to be sad!
In the sense that I don’t live in a warzone, yes. Otherwise it’s more that I lack the economic privilege to be politically engaged, because every day is a struggle to attend to the bottom rung of my needs hierarchy.
One can try.
Ironically, those not ignoring them are the ones empowering them. You can justify yourself however you want, but you’re just fire for your own nest.
I agree. OP is so pretentious and arrogant for not wanting to see posts they obviously don’t care about. How dare they not care about the things you and me find important? It’s just so irresponsible of them to have a different opinion of what they want to spend their free time viewing. Some people!
This post is just “I want to be uninformed”
I get muskrat but the others are unwarranted.