Christ does Christians do say canonically that the church is like Christ’s wife.
Marriage—Christ and the Church
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
(Ephesians 5:22-24)
And bridal theology goes back to the Old Testament, in Song of Songs.
Anything written by Paul is suspect. Dude just showed up after Jesus died and started writing letters like he was some sort of authority. He’s the source of many of the problematic parts of Christianity, like that and original sin.
Some Muslim scholars think he was deliberately trying to weaken Christianity on behalf of Judaism. Thomas Jefferson called him “The First Corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus”
Yeah it’s where we get a lot of purity doctrine as well… But when you read it you get the sense that Paul is a sex repulsed asexual. He’s like “well if you gotta do it be married… But also like just don’t if you can.”
Paul just comes across as an opportunistic narcissist riding on Jesus’s popularity and codifying things in a way people will do whatever he wants. “Give me (err mean my church) lots of money and listen to me and do what my most loyal friends tell you to and you’ll… Go to heaven… Yeah!”
The APA’s inclusive language guidelines recommend using person first language for people with mental disorders. Taking a diagnosis and turning it into a noun, like “n*rcissist”, can contribute to stigma and abuse of people with mental disorders, so the APA recommends against doing so.
Thank you. I’m aware it won’t change their minds however for one of them I have been established as a source of correct information (close relative and lifetime of giving them correct info)…
They don’t seem to internalize the information but I still try to provide them with correct information to counter the christofasc programming.
I couldn’t get much out of Wikipedia, but I’ve been reading Reddit, and one person suggested that Jesus only said to give to the poor and trust in the lord. That He didn’t say that the way to salvation is to worship Jesus; Paul said that, and James and Peter said Paul was full of shit. If Jesus is the physical incarnation of the lord, and people worship that physical incarnation, is that idolatry? I mean, the golden calf was a physical representation of the lord, right? Isn’t Jesus a physical representation too? If Jesus says it’s okay then that’s that, but if it was only Paul saying to worship Jesus rather than just to respect Him as a teacher, then it’s idolatry, right?
It absolutely is idolatry. Jesus didn’t even heal people, from a certain point of view. Almost always he tells them their faith let them heal themselves. Turning it into worshipping Jesus lets people excuse their own actions, as long as they bow to the golden calf.
Sorry, that’s Paul. Paul was trying to fit the young Christian church into acceptable Roman society. All the crazy shit in the new testament (controlling abusive crazy shit, not psychedelic type crazy shit, that was John the Elder) is from Paul. Paul is a piece of shit.
Christ doesChristians do say canonically that the church is like Christ’s wife.(Ephesians 5:22-24)
And bridal theology goes back to the Old Testament, in Song of Songs.
That’s not canonical to Jesus.
Anything written by Paul is suspect. Dude just showed up after Jesus died and started writing letters like he was some sort of authority. He’s the source of many of the problematic parts of Christianity, like that and original sin.
Some Muslim scholars think he was deliberately trying to weaken Christianity on behalf of Judaism. Thomas Jefferson called him “The First Corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus”
Fixed It for you.
Yes, but that’s not how you talk to fans of any media universe.
They forfeit any courtesy towards their stories once real people are hurt by them, so fuck em.
Yeah it’s where we get a lot of purity doctrine as well… But when you read it you get the sense that Paul is a sex repulsed asexual. He’s like “well if you gotta do it be married… But also like just don’t if you can.”
Paul just comes across as an opportunistic narcissist riding on Jesus’s popularity and codifying things in a way people will do whatever he wants. “Give me (err mean my church) lots of money and listen to me and do what my most loyal friends tell you to and you’ll… Go to heaven… Yeah!”
The APA’s inclusive language guidelines recommend using person first language for people with mental disorders. Taking a diagnosis and turning it into a noun, like “n*rcissist”, can contribute to stigma and abuse of people with mental disorders, so the APA recommends against doing so.
What’s the source for the Jefferson quote? I’d like to show it to a few Christian American Supremacists I know.
Won’t sway them but here you go: https://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/1559
Christofascists generally view anything that challenges their world view as heresy and/or a lie. You can’t sway them with facts.
Thank you. I’m aware it won’t change their minds however for one of them I have been established as a source of correct information (close relative and lifetime of giving them correct info)…
They don’t seem to internalize the information but I still try to provide them with correct information to counter the christofasc programming.
You got any more writings on Paul being the enshittifier of Christianity? I’m looking for someone to blame
My source for those two references, it should be a good starting point
I couldn’t get much out of Wikipedia, but I’ve been reading Reddit, and one person suggested that Jesus only said to give to the poor and trust in the lord. That He didn’t say that the way to salvation is to worship Jesus; Paul said that, and James and Peter said Paul was full of shit. If Jesus is the physical incarnation of the lord, and people worship that physical incarnation, is that idolatry? I mean, the golden calf was a physical representation of the lord, right? Isn’t Jesus a physical representation too? If Jesus says it’s okay then that’s that, but if it was only Paul saying to worship Jesus rather than just to respect Him as a teacher, then it’s idolatry, right?
It absolutely is idolatry. Jesus didn’t even heal people, from a certain point of view. Almost always he tells them their faith let them heal themselves. Turning it into worshipping Jesus lets people excuse their own actions, as long as they bow to the golden calf.
Sorry, that’s Paul. Paul was trying to fit the young Christian church into acceptable Roman society. All the crazy shit in the new testament (controlling abusive crazy shit, not psychedelic type crazy shit, that was John the Elder) is from Paul. Paul is a piece of shit.
Thanks for pointing out that it was Paul not Jesus who said that. I feel silly now. Corrected my comment.
Christianity is severely outdated, yes.