• Dearche
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      Sure, I understand that the system failed him, or at least failed someone close to him. But what he’s doing is just generally raging against the leaders and using random excuses to justify causing chaos.

      There’s no focus, no message. No way for anybody to respond in any way other than flat out rejection. How can you respond to something like this if when you try, it’s like “okay, I understand this this this, and this. But this one and these three others are unacceptable to us. But then there’s another sixteen that we can talk about. Please give us your side of the story and we can continue from there.” How do you form a conversation with that?

      Not to mention that he’s trying to gather people from the widest spectrum he can, each with a different grievance. How do you talk when you have a dozen “I won’t budge on this one thing” when each one thing is something different? Just like the previous convoy, it’s just plain civil disobedience for the sake of letting out steam, no actual attempt at making change.

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        I had a very strange conversation a couple of years ago. It seems that some people think that math is used only as a tool to control the population or something.

        We were talking about something that most people would consider pretty innocuous, catch and release fishing. I mentioned that I had recently read an article that claimed that mortality among released fish was still high enough that approximately every second released fish should be counted against your limit because of the percentage of released fish that die of catch-related causes.

        That lit the other guy’s hair on fire. “That’s math! You can’t seriously think that math is real? It’s all made up!” (Or words to that effect. Mouth frothing removed to protect the innocent.)

        Over the course of the rest of the conversation, I “learned” that math was invented as a tool of oppression. Science uses math to create fake knowledge. Our senses are the only true sources of knowledge.

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          They are anti-everything they don’t understand. Unfortunately that’s most things.

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          How to control a population 101:

          Make them only trust their emotions.

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          If they actually followed through with that you’d kind of have to admire it. What else would they have to do away with? All abstract concepts obviously, along with everything they’d been told, read, or imagined. How about theory of mind? Object permanence? Would they be newly surprised by the sunrise every day?

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            It devolves pretty quickly into an infantile solipsism. The world exists only for me, and only when I’m looking.

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        These are people that literally never grew up.

        It’s the 8 year old mentality of ‘math is hard and confusing, I would rather spend the day living in my imaginary world’

        What we are seeing now is the temper tantrum that happens when someone challenges them to leave their comfort zone.

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          A temper tantrum that goes on for years. At least with children it’s usually over in minutes.

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        Math has a known liberal bias.

        I expect they’d be upset about arabic numerals if they knew that’s what they’re called.

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        Yeah that stood out to me too, I’ve heard of these other dumb things.