In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like “maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don’t see it on Lemmy.” Of course, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don’t see racism even when they’re looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. … but that wasn’t really the thrust of that discussion.
So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you’ve seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!
Why is that?
It’s defederated from .world, the largest Lemmy instance.
Thanks. I’m still learning how Lemmy works 😅
Because with all the suffering in the world, it is difficult to envision utopia.
.world censors left-wing instances
Lemmygrad is infamous for hosting hate speech.
Being too left wing is not why Grad was deplatformed by everyone outside of the Marxist-Leninist circles.
So infamous that you can’t link a single example
Sorry I haven’t visited a hate site recently, you can wade through it if you’re really curious.
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https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/4500234
Does this qualify? I did not follow anything on lemmygrad, only the pigeon community, but i don’t anymore so this is all i could think of.
Racist against germans? Really?
I did not say it was racist. The definition of hate speech i read up included national origin as a target, but i guess there is no clear cut definition.
My personal scale says that i don’t want to hang out in a group where people say stuff like that and being upvoted for it, even if it is against germans.
Racism is racism. Unless you want to get technical and quibble about whether Germans are a “race” or not, that comment is pretty clearly inciting violence against a certain people as such.
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You got something against empty sets there buddy?
Lemmy.world nor any other instance on the fedi can remove content on another instance without the consent of federation, even then those actions can be undone by the site admin.
.world defederating from you doesn’t mean censorship. People disagreeing with your opinion and opting not to see it is not censorship.
It’s the literal definition of censorship.
Actually censorship is a centralized process of editing information channels to ensure certain topics aren’t published through those channels.
Censorship is a step in a publication pipeline. At least traditionally.
Simply shutting down sources would be “suppression” and choosing not to look at certain things is “willful ignorance”.
Sorry if that seems too pedantic, but you invoked the concept of literalness.
False
Yeah, kind of. Moderation is tricky and moderating moderators is even worse. I got banned from [email protected] for being a “white moderate”. Was it censorship of non-leftists? No. I am a communist, not a moderate.
There is one rogue mod there banning people right, left and centre and that is a problem, but not one of plain censorship. I would rather say it is frankly the problem of having a bad mod who does not understand their role. I imagine the same happens on .world and other places, albeit under different guises.