• grue@lemmy.world
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    It’s not the Trump cult, it’s the Heritage Foundation cult, of which Trump is the current leader.

    If you’re a “Republican” who isn’t all-in on christofascism, give up and change parties because the Republican Party is no longer for you and never, ever, ever will be again.

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      Christianity hasn’t really be in the forefront since Trump gained popularity. Sure, they throw their conservative Christian base a bone once in a while, but nobody in power believes Trump follows Christianity, or promotes their ideals. Even their biggest win, Roe v Wade, has been quietly shuffled to the side, because they don’t want to push a big Christian win while alienating other parts of their base.

      Fascism, on the other hand… well, that’s always been the goal:

      “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” — Grover Norquist, 2001

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        Have you looked at Project 2025, like, at all? It’s a fundamentalist’s (sinful) wet dream, in terms of how extremely sexually-repressive it is. I mean, sure, they’re trying to keep it on the down-low, but make no mistake: they are fucking delivering for the bigoted prude demographic.

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        Christian National (or Christofascism, whichever term you prefer) has very little to do with Christianity as a religion. Best I can tell, it’s a means to an end. It will borrow ideas, justifications, and recruit followers from Christianity, but in the US, this seems to be the main mythology the Trump cult is basing itself around (and it seems that most fascist movements have a “mythology” of fake facts they are grounded in).

        So while “Christianity” isn’t upfront most of the time, certain issues and ideas - probably most everything from the right’s “culture war” are basically Christian national ideas, and by osmosis, a ton of Christians seem to be absorbing these positions by default.

        The people most swayed by Christian Nationalism appear to be non-religious (or non church affiliated) conservatives. It’s all just familiar enough and an amalgamation of ideas they’ve already been conditioned (by various media consumption) to believe.

        But for a lot of more active Christians, I’ve seen a spectrum of attitudes. The number of them that adore Trump seems lower than the previous group, but a lot of them will vote for him because 1) he’s the Republican candidate and Democrats are icky 2) they may be a 1 or 2 issue voter, 3) because an authority figure they trust is telling them to.

        I’ve been trying to figure out the link between Trump and why portions of the religious right is completely obsessed with him, and a lot of it is still a mystery to me.

        Also, I recently watched this and found it really informative:

        https://youtu.be/P4gjE0bpk9k?si=5lExMbjqkyM4RTpI

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        The abortion thing is hardly a bone.

        Trump isn’t remotely interested in Christian issues, but he’s the horse that the Christian Taliban are riding hard.

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      Certainly seems that way.

      I don’t think that trump losing in November will resolve things in the long term. The support he has is a symptom of the underlying problems.

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    Secretly?

    The Lincoln Project goes hard every election.

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    Good thing voting records are private! They can secretly do their part to end the Trump era and nobody will know.

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    Then man up and help…if they are to afraid to stand up to these stupid bullies they don’t get to virtue signal they helped

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    The Trump cult will not end by Democrats winning once. It is a symptom of an abandoned society.

    Trump is not even the final form. We’re already seeing sequels popping up in the likes of JD Vance.

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      If Trump loses his career is over. He turned sycophant in order to get the VP pick; turning on every single thing he said about Trump before that.

      No one likes a sycophant. And if he then tries to return to his old positions, he’ll be ripped apart by both people who see right through it and by whatever remains of MAGA.

      This is a one-shot for Vance. If they lose, he’s going down with Trump.

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      Nonsense. For whatever reason, people follow trump with a fervor. Vance doesn’t have that.

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        That fervor was not out of control until after he became president, the same could happen with anyone else.

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        Nonsense. They unite behind Trump because he has the highest win percent. They defend Trump for the same reason Democrats defend Biden. They don’t like the guy they just want red to win.

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      Right, but the question is how much political power they have. If their candidates don’t get elected, nobody cares if they still exist.

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    *People too cowardly to oppose Trump hope that their political opponents have more courage to do what Republicans aren’t willing to do.

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    Trump has kids. Even after he dies, I don’t think we’ll be rid of them. Ivanka will run, possibly Don jr later on. Even Barron is trying to get into politics. They seem like useless idiots but so is their dad and he won, so I’m looking over the next 20 years and I can’t imagine a political landscape without the trumps anymore.

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      I doubt MAGA will care about his kids too much after Donald is gone. Donald is unique in his presentation and his kids don’t have that same style. They will only be relevant if Trump wins and can put them into power before he dies. I can see Don Jr still being around as a talking head or candidate, but I doubt he’ll ever be viable.

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    Pelosi could you just keep your mouth shut for a bit. Dems are on a roll for once and we don’t need you ruining it. Go back to puppeting Feinstein or something. Please just stay out of the news until we actually win the election.

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    Nancy, that’s true. And many Democrats openly want you to lose, because you’re dirty.