• Beaver [she/her]OPM
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    Most of the electorate do not support Pierre Poilievre.

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      Its very unlikely we get another Liberal government. All we can hope for is that we dont get a Conservative majority.

      Pharmacist lobbies are practically salivating at the chance to make our healthcare system look more like the US.

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        We gotta make the liberals lives hell until they pass proportional representation because under Pierre Poilievre we will lose all the hard earned progress.

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        If we won’t have a Liberal government, another NDP official opposition in a conservative minority might be nice. It’s almost a defacto coalition of libs and ndp.

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          This is probably the ideal outcome, assuming the polling numbers in this graph are accurate, and dont allow for a Con/Bloc/PPC coalition that is larger

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          Lol. The liberals are in for a Kim Campbell level blowout, and Singh’s attached himself to their boat.

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      Right, but suppose these percentages turned directly into seats via PR.

      With 42% of the seats, the Conservatives wouldn’t have much trouble forming a coalition with the Bloc to get to 50%. It could come right down to 1 seat but in all likelihood they could make it.

      Would you be happy with this outcome?

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          It’s not that simple. The Bloc support a number of positions (mainly around immigration and language laws, minorities, and religious clothing) that we would consider hard right in the rest of the country. They could definitely find common ground with the Conservatives on an anti-immigration bill, for example.

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            religious clothing

            That’s left wing

            Right wing are the religious people

            Conservatives on an anti-immigration bill,

            They could with the NDP but not the Cons who promise to make immigration easier

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              It’s almost like we need more axes to describe political views than just left and right.

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                It’s fine but I think the person’s problem is that they think anything they don’t like is right wing and they don’t view parties as having opinions across the board

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              Except for the fact that the religious clothing rules do not apply to christians.

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                It does though….

                The only exceptions are tattoos (banned in Christianity) and hair (nothing specific in Christianity)

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        I doubt the Tories and the Bloc would form a coalition, Tories went hard against coalitions and framed them as illegal and a power grab back in the Harper years, when they prorogued parliament to effectively kill it, the Bloc was in a supply agreement with that proposed coalition, the Bloc themselves don’t align with Tory policies.

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          I suppose yeah. I think the hard part about convincing the Liberals to pass PR is that they probably fear this sort of thing becoming a permanent arrangement: Conservative pluralities, coalitions, and never getting a shot at a Liberal majority again.

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          EVERYTHING is better than an American-style con government.