• LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Damn god bless. For being like uhmmm…old I guess and just vaguely unpopular for unspecific reasons Biden’s domestic policy has actually been great and really effective at chipping away at the big boys

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      Biden is old and probably on a steep cognitive decline. Who cares? Vote for the administration, not the man. The Biden Administration has proven highly competent. Anybody remember the clown show of s tier morons and fascists we had during the Trump administration? They set this country back decades.

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        This is my take. People are so obsessed with the two person race (or the media certainly positions it that way) that they forget that when you get a president, you get their people too.

        Remember Ajit Pai? Yeah, people like him are coming back if Trump wins another term.

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      A lot of it is Palestine, many people are very upset about that. It’s a legitimate opinion a person can hold.

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        It is legitimate, but they also need to realize Trump would do the exact same. Trump’s even made comments how isreal should finish the job faster.

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          That whole thing is a monstrous mess, and anyone who thinks they have the solution almost certainly doesn’t.

          I mean, putting myself in Biden’s shoes for a moment, what exactly is he supposed to do? If he cuts off all arms to Israel, that’s basically an open invitation to Iran and others to start an attack, leading to WWIII. If he gives them everything they want (the way Trump would) then say goodbye to all of Palestine… and probably still say hello to WWIII. And Netanyahu is obviously a madman. And Hamas is obviously a terrorist organization. And…

          Fuck. Like, what the actual fuck is the solution? I don’t freaking know. But I do know that everything Trump touches either turns to shit, or (if it’s already shit like this) turns to more rancid shit.

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            Personally i would rule that if isreal has the arms to commit genocide, then they have more than enough to defend themselves from Iran. Losing American backing because you are committing a genocide is a national choice we should have forced them to make.

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          Saying Trump would do the exact same thing isn’t the flex you think it is. It’s an acknowledgement that your choice for President is far right wing.

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            All or nothing. There is no perfect candidate. Make a choice based on your options.

            I hope biden doesn’t run and we get a better candidate, but I will vote for him over trump 100%, and I will not give my vote to a 3rd party as a protest and risk trump.

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              I dont care who they run, I won’t support them. The entire party has been silent while Palestinians get killed and equate opposition to Zionist as antisemitism. When we get trump again it will be because of liberals ignoring all the warning signs that Biden is a shit candidate.

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            Trump wouldn’t do the exact same thing though. He would do SIGNIFICANTLY worse. His administration is actively asking why Israel hasn’t nuked them.

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              If you vote for someone with far right wing policies you can’t be shocked when you get far right legislation

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        Yes I agree my fellow left-wing comrade, vote Trump4Palestine. From the river to the sea, Israel will be great again, we have nothing to lose but the ability to do effective real world progressive reform, me and all my friends here like John from the Orange Oblast in California agree 👍

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    This is great news! I hope one day my loan can get canceled too. I’d really like that $400/month back in my pocket.

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    Everyone’s student loans should be forgiven. It’s a net benefit for the whole country. If handouts were fine through Pedo Trump’s PPP loan scam, then what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I know these student loans and the PPP scam aren’t remotely comparable but I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the whole situation.

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      student loans and the PPP scam aren’t remotely comparable

      Both scams, but at least one will improve society once paid off.

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        why it’s on our REPRESENTATIVES to convince the masses to show up

        Yes they have a lot of responsibility here but so does every single eligible-to-vote goddamn citizen. It is your DUTY to participate and vote because if you do not it REDUCES YOUR OWN REPRESENTATION which is quite literally the opposite of why this nation was born in the first place.

        You present voting as if it is a quid-pro-quo transaction, and to an extent you’re not that far off; party A thinks they can lead better than B and advertises the things they want to do to bring in support. Party A pushes x/y/z policies that voters care about and thus Party A earns votes over B. They are not owed any votes.

        That’s all very well and good in a vacuum but we don’t live in a sterile little box and instead we live in a messy blurry complex setting full of voters and non-voters (further offsetting the true voice of the people). Your little story of how voting must be earned by being both enticing/motivating and be easy enough to not be cumbersome in any way does not translate well to reality. We have blatant corruption and we almost lost our democracy in 2020 as Trump planned to simply stay in power, I could go on, but won’t because you are clearly aware of these things.

        It is no longer just about party A’s policies vs party B’s. It’s quite literally a fight for the future of US democracy, it’s a fight for SCOTUS control for generations, it’s so much more than just the Pres.

        But they don’t even do that. Let’s pretend the abortion issue is Denny’s free breakfast day. Democrats would be saying “IF you don’t come wait in line outside the Denny’s for 2 hours in high enough numbers, we’re going to cancel the ‘bring a coupon for free breakfast that day’ event we do every year.”

        ONE PARTY is focused on gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters, making voting as hard as possible, and another has been focused on the opposite. You are balancing your little story on the premise that the Rs and Ds set up a bad system that is a pain in the ass for the average voter to get what they want, when that isn’t what is happening at all. No D is saying well you weren’t willing to wait in line to vote or drop off your ballot or whatever so fuck you we’re quitting the rest of the race or the next race or whatever, or even saying well fuck you we won’t run on these policies again.

        IT IS THE OTHER PARTY WHO ATTACKS VOTING from all angles, making it harder, mixing up districts to silence opposition strongholds, etc.

        And with that, we see exactly why your condescending little rant has no real application to reality; it’s wholly unrepresentative to the complex situation we find ourselves in. Is Dennys run by two competing factions? Is one of those two factions trying to silence worker and customer majorities to uphold their minority views and hunger for power, causing as much chaos as possible to stop progress when they don’t hold the reins? By the way, in that bullshit fake scenario, the Rs would be the ones trying to take away the free breakfast because too many customers come and eat for free.

        YES THE POLITICIAN$ HOLD A LOT OF THE BLAME (most of it, even), but THAT DOES NOT MEAN that the people hold no responsibility of the outcome. If you don’t vote when you are able, you are unamerican and are hurting yourself along with everyone else. You should not be withholding your vote waiting for someone to come take it on a silver platter. If you live in this country and you can legally vote, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO YOURSELF AND THE REST OF US TO VOTE.

        Your comment is so fucking self-centered and shortsighted it’s honestly disgusting.

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        Well that’s a hell of a tortured metaphor, but point taken. Deliverance from definite fascist destruction of democracy and the planet is not motivating enough.

        What about free panninis?

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            Part of the problem is the Republican party is pretty unified around being assholes, and the Democrats have a mix of progressive and asshole.

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            And when they stop it with their corrupt rich-asshole appointed Supreme Court, point at the Rs and yell “SEE?! THEY DON’T YOU TO HAVE GOOD THINGS! THEY HATE YOU!”

            They are doing that. You can see it’s been picked up by corporate news like wildfire. Or - what’s the opposite of wildfire.

            And expand the court. And then you win elections.

            Well, at best - maybe. Again: Electoral College.

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            I agree. I’ve been arguing this point against decades of Republican-lite tone-deaf dipshit Dem leaders. For those who don’t know, believe it or not, it’s finally moving - just as the “waah dems didn’t give me a pony” crowd are so helpfully parroting russian GRU talking points to depress turnout.

            Yeah on the whole Dems have gone through plenty of ineffective and blatantly counter activity in the last 50 years. But they’ve also been the mechanism by which anything good has been legislated. Sometimes with Republicans’ help, usually not.

            And because the electoral college is such a lopsided slave-owner cheat device, third party is most definitely only detrimental at this time. Yeah, like last time, yeah like every other time we’ve had to deal with the electoral college which is, uh, at least the last 50 years.

            “Weeeahh but why don’t democrats get rid of the electoral college”. FFS. Yeah. Why. It’s probably a grand bougie conspiracy. OR - or, okay, a complicated and massive governmental change which is almost impossible to do without overwhelming public support.

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                Plenty of work to do, yes. Within established structures. I have no interest in re-inventing the wheel because someone’s PoliSci course opened their mind to new possibilities.

                End Citizens United, end the electoral slaver’s college, impeach crooked justices, and yes severe limits on lobbying. One of the two main parties is capable and interested in those things.

                Spoiler alert, it takes a united Congress and more than ten weeks to do that.

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    bank puts debt on people

    instead of people repaying it, the govt pays the debt

    I get that it’s only for public servants etc. and after 10 years, but is this not just a state subsidized money funnel to the bank? Shouldn’t the root cause of the unrepayable debt be resolved instead of this?

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      All of these loans are backed by the US government, not a private bank. Forgiving then is just the government writing it off. The only private entities involved are the borrower and potentially the school.

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      Not for this. It’s just using the current laws to forgive what should have already been forgiven.

      Which sadly has been the large majority of what’s been forgiven

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    Student debt shouldn’t even be a thing. Do it like Europe and everyone, individuals and society, benefits.

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      I truly wish but it looks like I’ll be spending the next 20-40years fighting for children to get proper k-12 education…

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    Due to PSLF, not because he’s benevolent. He’s trying to take credit for a program that’s been in effect since Baby Bush

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      He revitalized a mismanaged program started in 2007 that, up until 2020, forgave about 7000 loans. Since 2021, that number has exceeded 800,000

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      You haven’t been paying attention of you think PSLF was working before the Biden admin had to restructure it

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        Soon the courts will argue that Biden’s restructuring was unconstitutional, and only the courts can restructure it, unless it’s a republican administration.