I’ve watched the keynote and read some stuff on the internet and I’ve found this video about a dude talking about the new update (I linked it here because if you didn’t see the keynote, this is probably enough)

Is it just me, or… does no one address that Apple does a Microsoft move by basically scanning everything on every machine and feeding this into their LLM?

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      On the contrary, Apple’s track record for collecting data is deliberately obtuse and utilizes dark patterns to make it as difficult as possible to not upload your info to them.

      From the article,

      the user is given the option to enable Siri, but “enabling” only refers to whether you use Siri’s voice control. “Siri collects data in the background from other apps you use, regardless of your choice, unless you understand how to go into the settings and specifically change that,”…“In practice, protecting privacy on an Apple device requires persistent and expert clicking on each app individually"…the steps required are “scattered in different places.”

      Apple devices might be arguably more secure than other vendors, but security and privacy are not the same thing.

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        This entire article is a nothingburger from 3 years ago. You’re telling me that the button saying “ask app not to track” still makes it possible for the app to track you? Almost like there’s a difference between the words “ask” and “enforce”? Did you read the article you sent? How is that even in the same universe as installing a keylogger into every Copilot PC by default?

        I never claimed Apple is perfect at privacy, I said they are better than the competition.

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          This entire article is a nothingburger

          It may be the case that your blind beliefs in Apple are a nothingburger, and that nobody should believe iSheeps when they say Apple is trustworthy in any capacity.

          I should just make it clear that Apple is NOT better than the competition. This is just copium huffing.

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        People really don’t want to believe that Apple, Microsoft and Google are all not on their side, so they choose to believe Apple is good, as some kind of a lesser evil.

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          I have seen it for so long, I am convinced helping western privacy community is a hopeless endeavour. At some point I might quit. I created privatelife community and plethora of guides, but I think I was an idiot to do it.

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        I didn’t know that was a controversial opinion? Do you think that Apple are as bad as Google or Meta in terms of privacy?

        Apple does have privacy violations, but the things I’ve seen them get caught doing are minor compared to the things that many other companies do openly.

        The main point of the article you’ve linked is that Apple put the equivalent of a “Do not track” option in a browser, and it did exactly the same of a “Do not track” option in a browser (nothing). Does that mean that any browser with a DNT request option is bad for privacy?

        Adding an option that is somewhat misleading isn’t ideal, but it’s incomparable to something like Cambridge analytica incident, or the tracking that Google put basically everywhere on the Internet.

        By the way, I am in no way defending Apple. I’m just saying that everything that Apple does, companies like Google and Meta also do, just ten times over.

        I believe an iPhone is way better than a Pixel for privacy, even if both are far from ideal. I’d love to be proven wrong, tho.

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          Apple markets whatever it does in a grandiose manner, and pretends that since it does things late, it polishes everything, everything Just Werks™ and Apple makes no faults. Their PR washing machine also ensures their blunders also look like an oops cute moment.

          I will refer you to the “Why not Apple devices?” section in my guide. https://lemmy.ml/post/128667 You will find tons of details on why Apple devices are horrible. Moreover, Android fully surpassed iOS in terms of security around Android 8 or 9, about 6 years ago. It is far costlier to buy or find a 0day for Android since many years now, which also happens to be the basis for million dollar costs of Israeli Cellebrite kits and Israeli Pegasus malware.

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        Did anyone ever believe that did anything?

        I mean “asking” an app or webpage not to track you? That is ridiculous, the function should work to obfuscate your data from the app/website in the first place.

        I say this as an iPhone user.