Blocking adblockers apparently doesn’t work well enough so google resorts to various forms of gaslighting (delayed video playback, api randomly returning wrong video, and now skipping video straight to the end).
Had the random API one the other day. Was nuts. Also the 5 second delay for Firefox too when it was a thing.
I get that 5sec delay for the official YouTube app weirdly enough
I thought I was going insane with the wrong video thing. I have premium but also an ad blocker because the entire internet is a cancerous cesspit without one, so I wonder if I get hit with anti ad blocking measures or I was just tripping?
Use Youtube frontends. Here is Privacy Guides’ page about Youtube frontends. All of Youtube’s BS will disappear.
I think “all of youtubes bs will disappear” is a stretch. I don’t know the whole state of play but I know invidious has had some instability lately.
It’s not mentioned there because it doesn’t meet the OSI definition, but Grayjay is a source-available Android app that pulls videos from various services (e.g. Nabula, Odysee, PeerTube, etc). I’m hopeful it’ll become properly open source at some point.
Oh no!
uBlock Origin updates
Anyway…
More and more Im trusting the fact that ublock origin will correct these issues in short order. Youtube must really hate those guys…
Youtube must really hate those guys…
Makes you wonder how long it will take, before Raymond Hill plummets to his death from a basement window.
More anticipating him getting sued out of existence Media Matters style, by vexatious filing in the Fifth Circuit.
They have been really good at it over the last few months.
While the developer doesn’t accept donations, they do encourage donating to the people maintaining the block lists. I’ve contributed in the past and would happily keep doing so.
It would be a shame if the devs maintaining the block lists stop doing what they’re doing because it’s not sustainable enough for them.
Why doesn’t the developer accept donations?
"I do not want the administrative workload that comes with donations. I do not want the project to become in need of funding in any way: no dedicated home page + no forum = no cost = no need for financial support. I want to be free to move on to something else if ever I get tired of working on these projects (no donations = no expectations).
Have a thought for the maintainers of the various lists. These lists are everything. I can not emphasize this enough."
Not all heroes wear capes. Seriously, this man is now enshrined in my mental halls of great men along with John Bannister Goodenough, whom I just discovered died last year. I’m going to go be heartbroken now.
Interesting. Thanks.
Firefox with uBO, haven’t seen an add or ran into any issues in ages, both windows and linux.
Shhhhhhhh…don’t let the mainstream know…once EVERYBODY is doing it, they’ll fix it.
Wait. This is Lemmy. Pretty sure there’s like 8 people here…
Exactly 8 upvotes to your comment… Let’s leave it that way.
He’s at 39 now… Which of you hasn’t voted with your 5th account yet??
Edit: oh nm it was me. There was only a 12.5% chance it would be me but lady luck didn’t smile on me.
And Arch, BTW.
Sometimes I need to refresh the page for the video to play but otherwise no issues, ff+ubo ftw
Exactly, this! uBlock Origins will block upwards of thousands of ads/trackers/whatever from YouTube. After it hits about 50k+, it’ll start to act strangely. At that point I just refresh the video and it all goes away. I think this happens when YouTube changes something cached in the browser, which was originally not blocked by uBO, even when uBO might have been updated to block the new stuff. I have uBO on auto-update for this reason. Whenever I notice shit not working, F5 FTW!
Sounds like a bug in the filters used by Adblock and Adblock Plus. Afaik uBO or Adguard aren’t affected.
Can confirm, no issues with uBO and Smart Tube Next on my TV.
YouTube will not stop until the site is Unusable by anyone without over paying for every second they are there. YouTube as a free site is doomed
If they push hard enough eventually there will be a replacement.
Federation could solve this. All you need is one flagship instance that doesn’t allow uploads, but it allows users to create accounts and playlists to act as “the” site for the federated network and then content creators can start their own instances.
I’ve been having this.
My videos are also randomly going from 4k to 360p, and having long hitches/pauses. Thats assuming the page loads at all, which may take a few refreshes…and its not an internet/connection related issue.
happening with Firefox with ublock origin.
edit Honestly, the youtube pages (and only the youtube pages) act slow and laggy like the CPU is running at 100% doing hard number crunching. yet system monitor shows its not even breaking 10% load on the CPU, and that firefox’s process isnt even using half that, so it feels like theres something artificially slowing the page down, in retrospect.
My videos are also randomly going from 4k to 360p, and having long hitches/pauses
I’m seeing this as well. Except I’m not using an adblocker on youtube, and I am paying for youtube premium…
I don’t think it’s entirely caused by youtube fighting adblockers. I think it’s more likely just a regular, boring, old fashioned fuck-up.
I am paying for youtube premium…
Oof.
I have my reasons. You may not agree, but you also don’t live in my house.
Haha that reminds me of a period of my life where I realized it was possible for game devs to detect piracy but instead of making the game say, “not legit copy, cannot play”, it would be more subtle and make itself unstable and eventually crash.
I had a pirated copy of RCT3 that would crash regularly after a few hours. Thought maybe that’s what was going on, plus it was a good game and worth my money anyways, so I bought a legit copy and installed that.
A few hours into playing, it crashed again.
Oh well, other than the crashing it was still a good game so I don’t regret buying it. And I think they sorted it out because my more recent plays didn’t see any crashes. I even bought it again on Steam since I’m not entirely sure where the disc is and don’t have a drive to read it anyways.
ive had it for over a week, though. Think it’d be fixed by then if it was a fuck up
Think it’d be fixed by then if it was a fuck up
Who knows. If it’s not impacting a signifigant percentage of viewers enough for them to complain it may not be a high priority yet.
Yup it just started doing it to me, AdBlock on firefox. whelp I’ll just download them… https://github.com/Unrud/video-downloader
Use uBlock Origin. Not AdBlock, not AdBlock Plus, not any other crapware. Looking at AdBlock website they have a blurb about only keeping anonymised data and never selling it and yada yada yada, because it goes against their company ethics.
Company ethics. AdBlock is owned by a company. A for-profit entity. How do you think they make their money? Either they sell the data they have gathered (why does an ad blocking extension need to gather user data?) or they have agreements with ad companies.
Compare the websites of AdBlock and uBlock Origin. The first thing on uBlock Origin website is a link to the publicly available source code. That’s trustworthy. AdBlock’s website has a handpicked list of 5 star reviews.
TL; DR: please switch to uBlock Origin and ditch AdBlock, they (the company behind AdBlock) likely have agreements with advertisers (including Google and YouTube) to make money. Your data is being harvested by using AdBlock. You cannot look at the code for AdBlock. AdBlock is not trustworthy.
Thank you for that, I’ll have a look.
You can also just play them directly with MPV or VLC.
I just tried that and it’s not working for me. MPV just closes itself and VLC gives me an error message. Do I need to do more that just drag and drop the URL?
For VLC you need to go to Media > Open Network Stream (or Ctrl+N), then paste the youtube link there.
For MPV use command line
mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videocodeVLC still gives me the same error message.
For MPV, it gives me the following error message:
`mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e9_l2oGxdw [ytdl_hook] ERROR: [youtube] 3e9_l2oGxdw: Unable to extract uploader id; please report this issue on https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest version using yt-dlp -U [ytdl_hook] youtube-dl failed: unexpected error occurred Failed to recognize file format.
Exiting… (Errors when loading file) `
Your mpv or vlc versions may be too old. Try updating them to the latest versions.
Well, while MPV might be outdated, I already mentioned that I was able to get YouTube videos working by downloading a newer version of yt-dlp and creating a conf file for MPV that links to it. While I was looking into the problem, the versions available in apt for all three of these are outdated by at least a year, possible 3 years for MPV. I’m not sure if this is just a Linux Mint issue but I have noticed that a lot of the software both preinstalled and available in it’s repository, are pretty outdated.
I might try downloading the newer versions of these later. I got MPV working and that’s good enough for me right now.
Mint is known to use old software in its repositories as it’s based on Ubuntu LTS. The flatpak mpv should work though.
flatpak install flathub io.mpv.Mpvand then run it withflatpak run io.mpv.Mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQIf you don’t want to type
flatpak run io.mpv.Mpvall the time, you can create an alias in your~/.bashrcfile. For example:alias play='flatpak run io.mpv.Mpv'. (After editing your bashrc file, run:source ~/.bashrcto activate the change). Then you can run it withplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=3e9_l2oGxdw
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I got YouTube videos working in MPV. While I have no idea if the way I did it was technically not correct, all I did was download the newest version of yt-dlp from github and created a file name mpv.conf which links to the yt-dlp python file. I was also able to set a preferred resolution using that conf file.
That is way too much faff if you are watching youtube daily.
Get something like FreeTube, FOSS with all the ad blocking and sponsor blocking automatically enabled. And your subscriptions and other settings are all saved locally.
You can download YouTube videos via yt-dlp and add them to a jellyfin server. If you’d want to watch them without ads and off of Google.
Yeah but I don’t really want to keep the videos. Need one of these alternative sites to hurry up and take off
I’ve been looking into tube archivist actually. Want to get it set up soon and try it out.
Auto downloads, direct to Jellyfin, rules set up to delete them afterwards
I can recommend FreeTube, which is a standalone privacy friendly alternative that gets their videos directly from Google. While also blocking any ads, sponsorships and tracking.
An privacy alternative to Google would be wonderful, but in the meantime we can do it ourselves.
I’d imagine there would be a way to automatically delete the file if you’ve watched a certain percentage and it’s been a certain amount of time.
IDK, I’m not a programmer.
It would be pretty trivial to write a 1 line ‘script’ that deletes everything in the directory older than X hours.
This is what I do anyways because I am too impatient to watch through 15 minutes of blah blah to reach the end and hear, “in my next video I’ll actually show you how to dobthe thing that you came here to see.”
Give me a decent web page with searchable text and a few pictures (if needed) and I’ll be happy.
I was searching on YouTube for seat sizes for a long haul flight and can try to compare different airlines seats. There was so much annoying content that I went to Bing to search (Google is bad now).
That was also pretty bad. I ended up using chatGPT and gave me the answer in 1 minute.
But are you sure that answer wasn’t a hallucination?
When ChatGPT searches the web, it provides sources.
Ah, you used bing copilot to search. OK.
I used the actual ChatGPT. I don’t really like the copilot answers.
Is this happening to any user in the EU?
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Why?
I assume he’s asking because the EU has a bunch of laws that protects users from this kind of shitty behavior. When I went to the EU many of the apps I use became less shitty.
Does the EU actually have any laws that would prevent a company from doing whatever they want to try to fight ad blockers? I mean it would be really cool if they did, but I would be shocked if any government required a company not to try to prevent users from circumventing the way they make money.
I don’t know of any specific laws against them enshitifying adblockers. But there are things like the GDPR and in the EU big tech corporations are under constant scrutiny by regulators. Making them a lot less likely to do these kinds of shitty things in general. I assume that’s why she/he’s asking. Perhaps pressure from regulators has caused them to reframe from engaging in this same behavior in the EU? Out of caution?
Edit: I use the modified version of the Youtube app on iOS (uYou) and the skipping behavior happened to me and it reminded me to respond to your comment. I’m pretty sure they’re breaking adblockers on purpose.
Because EU has a track record of putting stop to shitty practices by major corporations.
Would not surprise me if they leave EU out of this just to prevent a potential conflict.
Seems like it’s working as intended - have you seen the sponsor to content ratio on YouTube these days?
I actually haven’t. Any info on this? I’m curious to see which one is dropping faster.
I don’t have exact numbers, (just anecdotals) but SponsorBlock has some basic stats, and so far they’ve saved people over 3962 years worth of time. By dividing that by how many skips there are, (3,608,826,265) you get roughly 34.6452092 seconds. Per skipped segment, which videos often have multiple of.
This doesn’t include videos that are purely promotional sponsored videos disguised as content, (see modern LTT or RyanToyReviews) video content that would break the coherency of the video if skipped or actual non-video ads that are becoming more and more frequent.
SponsorBlock also has options to skip filler in videos, which is hit or miss since it’s all community submitted, but…
I’m not having that issue. I also use Freetube as a backup on desktop.
Im amazed at how good libretube is getting honestly
It is honestly great and the only hassle is manually getting your sub list.
I know that once adblockers won’t work anymore I will simply avoid YouTube.
