• BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip
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    8 months ago

    Yeah, they should really stop killing their own people. Over 30,000 Palestinians, many of them children, dead at the hands of Hamas!

    Good thing Israel’s there to stop this horrible genocide and restore order.

    /s

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        8 months ago

        Honestly, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if, in the inevitable Israel Nuremberg Trials, it comes out that the Israeli government intentionally instigated or even carried out the October 7 attack in order to generate sympathy and as a pretext for its genocide.

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            8 months ago

            Like how? I mean do you and people upvoting you really think there will be some trial for Israel leaders? Right now we in the situation where military support for them is increasing. And the tendency is it will increase further. What do you imagine might change?

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              I don’t think there will be a trial. I just think it’s plausible, but not extremely likely, that Israel’s fascist government would be willing to plan or at least support an attack on its own citizens in order to obtain a mandate to take Palestine

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          They might have let it happen intentionally and pulled Gaza troops to the West Bank beforehand.

          But the way israel went full mask off Nazi mode and threw its entire global reputation away over the last 7 months does not indicate that everything is going according to plan.

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        8 months ago

        Well he probably is making the biggest advertising for them in their history. No matter how this war ends, there will be thousands of people with a grudge against Israel.

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      8 months ago

      Hiding amongst civilians is a dirty thing after you start a war you can’t win, I know

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        “Mr. President, the terrorists have taken hostages. What should we do?” “Bomb the building.” -A psychopath

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          I’m not in charge of Israeli military policy, and im not here to justify their actions. But maybe Hamas should have considered the extent of retaliation when they started a war with them by murdering 1200 innocents.

          That was my whole point. By starting a war with Israel, they clearly had very little to zero consideration for the Palestinian people.

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            Hamas are not murdering innocents anymore. Israel is. Continually. Unyielding. With glee.

            But it doesn’t matter what Hamas is doing, did, or will do. It’s all political pretense anyway. If it wasn’t that it would be something else. Israel wanted to cleanse the area finally and take over, and this seemed like a good excuse as any to rile up the zombie masses and rally them around the genocide campfire. You’re falling for it. You’re part of the problem.

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            You are literally justifying their actions. Justifying the murder of well over 30 thousand.

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              No, my argument is that if Hamas actually cared about “their people”, they wouldn’t have started a war against a much stronger enemy who has proven to have very little care for causing civilian loss.

              I’m not justifying Israel’s actions

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                You are putting the responsibility for those murders entirely on Hamas rather than the government currently perpetrating them, thus justifying that government’s actions. You could have just as easily made your opening comment, “Man, if only Israel cared about international law.” Please stop insulting my intelligence.

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                    Taken a step back and considered how they got where they did, and determine what steps could be taken for a long term peace. Well, I guess they did that but decided their path to peace involved killing every last Palestinian, a final solution if you will.

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              And many of the civilians were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. We don’t have an exact figure because Israel refuses any investigation into the matter.

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            They should live in the special IDF cities since IDF and other Israeli citizens never live anymore close to each other. /s

            So, about those IDF who did a lot more than kidnapped people, where should they live? Or is there worse repercussions for natives versus the invaders that kill them nonstop for decades?