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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 1 year ago

I don't know the way, but this ain't it

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I don't know the way, but this ain't it

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 1 year ago
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    ok so what’s the plan then? how do you destroy the system but keep the tools needed for civilization to continue? It’s an honest question because I see lots of doomer and boogaloo types but no one seems to offer up a plan.

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      Simplifying things, Anarchist praxis is to start building the new world in the shell of the old. We start building org structures we want to have, co-operatives, unions, moneyless exchange systems etc. These things naturally destabilize the existing system until it collapses under its own inherent contradictions, and then these orgs take over seamlessly.

      More elaborate: https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionJ.html#secj2

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        and then these orgs take over seamlessly

        And other lies you can tell yourself. Dont get me wrong, i am more aligned with anarchist thought than any other leftist denomination, but holy shit we cant be this naive.

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          No naivety involved. This has already happened and been shown to work.

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            You got some examples?

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              Spanish Revolution for one.

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                10 months. It lasted 10 months . Don’t get me wrong, it was a beautiful thing. But we need to look beyond siege socialism.

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                  That’s irrelevant to our topic. It also lasted 3 years

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                    I was referencing Revolutionary Catalonia not the wider Spanish Revolution. My mistake.

                    It is possible to co-opt existing structures, but how do we counter outside forces, like happened during the Spanish Revolution. I could be wrong, but Horizontalism will always be weakened against organized opposition.

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      getting rid of conservatives

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        I’m down. How?

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          any means necessary

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            Sounds dangerous. What if someone accuses you of being conservative?

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              i explain that i’m not. also, i’m armed, so bring it.

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                The posse has more guns than you. I’m beginning to think you didn’t think this plan through.

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                  I’m old. I’ve lived a good life. If it means that there are finally posses rounding up conservatives, I might just be ok with it.

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                    The only way to kill bad fascism is with good fascism?

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      What tools do you consider necessary for civilization to continue?

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