• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    No, I actually do want some of these. I think housing should be a right, not a privilege. Basic universal income is going to be very important when suddenly AI takes half of our blue-collar jobs bcz rich assholes think they can get by without workers. And actually, I do want corporations to be unprofitable. They’re currently profiting off the backs of their employees labor, and i think that should belong to the employees.

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      7 months ago

      I don’t disagree, and everything should be clean energy etc. but, y’know. First things first. Save Democracy, Constitutional right of women to their own bodies, tax billionaires, and such. We’ll meet back here afterwards for next steps

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      I want to share something to provide us with some perspective. There’s the story of the first time two Xavante tribe leaders in Brazil got brought to São Paulo in 1974, as told by Mário Sérgio Cortella, today one of the foremost philosophers of the country.

      They eventually were brought to one of the biggest bulk produce markets in the country. The amount of high quality food around them was astonishing, and they were struggling to come to terms with such abundance. Then, one of them turns and asks what a kid was doing. It was a destitute kid collecting spoiled food. “He’s grabbing food”, the hosts answered.

      After mulling over the answer and looking around for some 15 minutes, he inquired: “I don’t understand. Why is that kid getting spoiled food when there’s an abundance of good food all around?” They told him you need money to get food from the good pile, and the kid had none. “Why not?” “He’s a child.” “And his parents don’t have it?” “No.” “Why not?” Unable to dodge the questions and unable to bridge the cultural gulf and explain how the capitalist system worked, they waved their hands and just declared “Well, you see, it’s just the way things work here.”

      After that exchange, the tribe leaders looked at each other and then requested to leave. Not the market, not the city, but the society entirely. They wanted to go back to their tribes and wanted nothing to do with any of that society that was ok with a starving kid eating garbage right next to a pile of good food.

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      7 months ago

      I agree, sort of.

      Housing should sort of be like UBI, where there should be a basic apartment block or section of smaller homes for families to fall back on. These tend to be pretty dangerous places though, no body “wants” to live there. If anyone thinks that they have a “right” to a house in any neighborhood that they want, they are unrealistic. Demand and availability is real, there is no world in which people are guaranteed a nice home, with a nice yard, in a nice part of town.

      UBI should absolutely be a thing for everyone.

      Companies need to generate more than their overhead, or they can’t pay their workers. If they are not profitable, they can not grow, if they can not grow, then their only outcome overtime is to shutdown. Why would anyone ever want to risk everything to start a new business then?

      I’m all for change and fixing things, but people’s “wants” need to be realistic.

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        7 months ago

        Turns out I don’t believe in capitalism anymore. That ship has sailed for me when I realized the only thing corporations and the government care about is making sure they make piles and piles of money off my work (hint im an engineer), while they try to offer me a piddley two weeks vacation bcz life is about working until you’re dead unless you’re rich.

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      AI isn’t going to take half the blue collar jobs in your lifetime.

      Most likely, it will take over menial coding, buercratic and management tasks. Anything that requires manual labor is going to take AI and a robot. Imagine an AI + an Autonomous truck trying to pick up a load of pallets, drive cross country, back up/park the trailer and unload the pallets. Or try to imagine how expensive a suite of robots and an AI would be that could do oil changes on just 50% of the cars on the road.

      We got plenty of time.