• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    You know, some day extreme religious belief will be classified as a mental illness. I hope I live to see it.

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      I asked someone who said they are a psychiatrist in another thread last week why belief* in any religion outside mainstream religions are classified as magical thinking while belief* in mainstream religions is not. I don’t really care what beliefs people entertain as long as they’re not mentally or physically harming* anyone, I just really want to know how DSM psychiatrists reconcile that.

      *Autocorrect

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        If the organization has enough capital to hinder the APA, it is a religion. If they don’t, it is magical thinking and delusion.

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          So the ToS* flavor of satanism stands a chance ay becoming non-delusional.

          • AI autocorrect and/or network latency is really annoying
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        The reason why cult beliefs are considered mental illness is that most people don’t understand psychiatric guidelines. Psychiatrists are not supposed to discriminate against patients for their cultural beliefs, and if they do, you can sue them for malpractice. Unfortunately, average joes aren’t held to any psychiatric standard and can do whatever they want, and what some of them want is to discriminate against people different than themselves. If we want to change that, we need to take action to change that by telling cult haters to fuck off.

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          I mean, I’m either atheist-agnostic or Omni -istic. I just find some decent ideas in several religions, but plenty of ideas that are hateful and disposable. Metaphors, similes, guidelines for ways that are either beneficial and constructive ways to direct use of our energy to ourselves and society, or very, very maladaptive and harmful. And that’s how I use to differentiate what to keep and what to discard.

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      There’s another option, which is that the extreme doomsday beliefs become a self-fulfilling prophecy and no one lives to see it classified as a mental illness outside of the momentary ‘oops’ when things are crashing down all around and no dead bodies come floating down from the sky to stop it.

      I think about Popper’s paradox more and more these days.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    Two years after her body was found by police on the altar of a Pentecostal church in San Jose, California, authorities have still to decide whether her killers will stand trial.

    Yo what the fuck? This should have been an easy-ass decision.

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          So are you saying we shouldn’t hold the religious people accountable for murdering a child?

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            I’m pretty sure the first paragraph is /s material while (at least the second half of) the second paragraph is straight-up facts.

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              Practicing as they wish resulted in the death of a child. How far are we going to let religious freedom trump law?

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                Maybe I cometely missed the tone in the post referenced. I genuinely thought OP was sarcastically explaining the origin of acceptance of extremism in US religion. Loss of context in the limited medium of text.

                Make no mistake - these people are fucked in the head, should be tried (the right to a speedy trial should have been applied years ago), and when (hopefully) convicted, should get absolutely nuked from orbit.

                Anyone’s claim to practice religion (which doesn’t include child abuse, human abuse, animal abuse, or fucking murder) or to not is their business - until they force that with harm on another. (with the understanding that parents brainwashing their kids is currently acceptable, and my biases are my own). Kind of a: “your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins” thing.

                So, to summarize: while I don’t necessarily agree with prison violence and ‘eye-for-an-eye’ justice, these people can get fucked with a rake. And my heart weeps for that dear child.

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    D&D sparked satanic panic that had a body count and this shit gets ignored for years?

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    Claudia explained to police that her daughter had a demon because she would ‘wake up and scream’ in the night.

    ‘What I believe is that she was possessed, you know, ’cause I go to church.’

    Presenting: the forced-birthers

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      Claudia explained to police that her daughter had a demon because she would ‘wake up and scream’ in the night.

      I feel like crying. All kids do this. You address this by having a happy bedtime, keeping the room cool, keeping ambient light out… There’s so many options. My daughter and I talk about the parts of the day she enjoyed right before bed so she’s thinking happy thoughts when she falls asleep. And she still wakes up every once in a while. She gets a hug when that happens. Sometimes my wife sings her back to sleep.

      ‘Arely’s death made him question his gift to heal.’

      No shit, sherlock. Lock 'em all up.

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    This is one of the few times that i regret reading something. Im honestly at a loss here, this has got to be the most fucked up scene of all time and i feel nothing but sorrow for that poor child.

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          I love that you had a straight answer for this. 🤣

          Also, excellent clip sir.

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          Yeah, all the witch trials and Catholic occult bullshit in history seems to be pretty mild and rational.

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            Not defending any of this madness but inquisition and such is not really about “cleaning” the posessed body. It’s more punishment chosing the wrong path. Doubt They planned on rehabilitation in this lifetime anyway. Not sure wtf these people were on that they went so far on child. I was a bad child. mom said I was highly destructive and she had to tie me up most of the time. Bet if I had these parents I’d be dead right now.

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    I sincerely wish her mother a long, pain-filled tortured life of agony. The only thing more painful than her existence should be the next part of her existence.

    And that’s the hugely censored version. Current law does not have a bad enough penalty. Throw her to alQaeda and let them have her.

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    Some days I wish the Rapture really will happen just so these fucking trogs finally leave us alone and we don’t have to deal with them anymore. Religion brings the worst out of people.

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      Nah, if the rapture happens they probably won’t be a part of it, considering how they only follow the bible when it directly benefits either them or whatever leader they’re following.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A little girl told her mother 'I love you’ in an attempt to stop the woman torturing her to death in a day-long church ‘exorcism’, newly released court documents reveal.

    Three-year-old Arely Proctor pleaded for her life and struggled to escape as she was battered and strangled by her mother Claudia Hernandez, 27, and her pastor relatives.

    Two years after her body was found by police on the altar of a Pentecostal church in San Jose, California, authorities have still to decide whether her killers will stand trial.

    ‘Over the course of approximately twenty hours Arely Doe fought for her life as three trusted adults forcibly grabbed her by the neck,’ Deputy District Attorney Rebekah Wise wrote.

    'If you read the Bible, you’ll see that Jesus casts away demons and made sick people healthy again,’ he later told Mercury News.

    Wise filed her memorandum on April 3 to Santa Clara County Court where Judge Hanley Chew will make a ruling on May 10 as to whether there is enough evidence for a trial.


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