Based on your source the real issue seems to be the property owner allowing that activity on their premises. It’s also interesting that reasoning was an afterthought in the last two paragraphs of the article while the remaining ~80% seemed to be focused on how it’s a good thing for the city.
It’s not the governments job to enable businesses, they already do that with tax breaks, corporate subsidies and passing laws that favor them.
It is the primary role of government to protect, defend and improve the lives of the people they govern and that elect them to their positions of power. Corporations didn’t revolt from Great Britain and establish this country, the people did.
You have your priorities twisted to maintain your political stance, IMO.
It’s not the governments job to enable businesses, they already do that with tax breaks, corporate subsidies and passing laws that favor them
That is the job of the government. We pay taxes and they provide services. If they can’t keep the city orderly, business won’t do business there.
My priorities are not twisted. I won’t go to a store where people a shitting in front of it. Call me old school but I will spend my dollars somewhere else.
as such that store will close down.
This is what happens when you defund the police and allow the city to turn into a shit hole.
On market street was the old navy flagship store. Old Navy is based out of San Francisco. They couldn’t even keep that open due to the lawlessness.
In Portland they are having similar issues. Nike has to close their store because of crime.
If the only grocery store in your area (if they get their way with the kroger merger) is gone, it won’t matter anyway.
Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go.
I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US. I get to travel a lot and see more than the news organizations would have you believe. It’s not due to crime, even if that was the reason given.
Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go.
No, it’s not their fault. They are acting under the guidance of the city council. They didn’t ask to be defunded and allow crime to go rampant. Some of my friends are SF officers and they are livid over what has happened to the city.
I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US.
Look at my name. I am in Portland a couple of times a week to almost daily. The crime us rampant and the homeless population has exploded.
I expect once drugs are criminalized, we will see order restored fairly quickly.
I dunno, compared to many other cities in the Midwest, south, and southeast Portland really isn’t that bad. A little dirty and a homelessness problem but that’s literally every city right now. It’s actually gotten better since COVID, noticeably.
Ehh, it’s not the drug criminality. It’s a lot of things, including cost of living, Portland police literally refusing to respond to calls and do their job, and lax laws on responding to homelessness. It’s a sad failure of the system, sure. But it’s just not the boogeyman conservative media likes to say it is.
Nobody’s defunding them. They’ve actually been funded more since that became the hot new word. This alone tells me you’re either being lied to by your media source, or you’re making this up as you go. I don’t want to accuse you of anything but. I’m afraid you may be misinformed.
The PPD have plenty of funding, at this point they’re just refusing to do their jobs.
Yeah unfortunately that part’s not a Portland-specific problem either. Too much favoritism in corporations as well as city government these days.
Based on your source the real issue seems to be the property owner allowing that activity on their premises. It’s also interesting that reasoning was an afterthought in the last two paragraphs of the article while the remaining ~80% seemed to be focused on how it’s a good thing for the city.
It’s not the governments job to enable businesses, they already do that with tax breaks, corporate subsidies and passing laws that favor them.
It is the primary role of government to protect, defend and improve the lives of the people they govern and that elect them to their positions of power. Corporations didn’t revolt from Great Britain and establish this country, the people did.
You have your priorities twisted to maintain your political stance, IMO.
My priorities are not twisted. I won’t go to a store where people a shitting in front of it. Call me old school but I will spend my dollars somewhere else.
as such that store will close down.
This is what happens when you defund the police and allow the city to turn into a shit hole.
On market street was the old navy flagship store. Old Navy is based out of San Francisco. They couldn’t even keep that open due to the lawlessness.
In Portland they are having similar issues. Nike has to close their store because of crime.
If the only grocery store in your area (if they get their way with the kroger merger) is gone, it won’t matter anyway.
Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go.
I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US. I get to travel a lot and see more than the news organizations would have you believe. It’s not due to crime, even if that was the reason given.
Look at my name. I am in Portland a couple of times a week to almost daily. The crime us rampant and the homeless population has exploded.
I expect once drugs are criminalized, we will see order restored fairly quickly.
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/08/nike-permanently-closes-northeast-portland-factory-store/
I dunno, compared to many other cities in the Midwest, south, and southeast Portland really isn’t that bad. A little dirty and a homelessness problem but that’s literally every city right now. It’s actually gotten better since COVID, noticeably.
Ehh, it’s not the drug criminality. It’s a lot of things, including cost of living, Portland police literally refusing to respond to calls and do their job, and lax laws on responding to homelessness. It’s a sad failure of the system, sure. But it’s just not the boogeyman conservative media likes to say it is.
I think that’s a matter of opinion.
PPb isn’t refusing calls. They are short staffed. They lose a ton of officers over the calls to defund.
I won’t overly defend PPb because I think they needed a reckoning. A family member of a friend was beat to death by PPB for not a good reason.
I would like to think that’s the only time I’ve heard a similar story but it isn’t.
The only reason the officers got into any trouble was several of the family members worked for the governor directly.
Nobody’s defunding them. They’ve actually been funded more since that became the hot new word. This alone tells me you’re either being lied to by your media source, or you’re making this up as you go. I don’t want to accuse you of anything but. I’m afraid you may be misinformed.
The PPD have plenty of funding, at this point they’re just refusing to do their jobs.
Yeah unfortunately that part’s not a Portland-specific problem either. Too much favoritism in corporations as well as city government these days.
See? We can agree on stuff haha
Defunding happened but then they corrected. The problem is they lost officers and nobody wants to work there.
https://manhattan.institute/article/portlands-police-staffing-crisis
https://www.streetroots.org/news/2022/08/03/ppb-budget-2022#:~:text=In 2019-2020 PPB received,29%25 of the general fund.
In 2021-2022, this number dipped just 4%, with PPB absorbing at least 29% of the general fund.
https://www.portlandtribune.com/news/defund-the-police-rhetoric-haunts-portland-area-progressives/article_8bd82e18-b531-5ae3-9e01-1887858ef78d.html
Right so the defund argument is BS in 2024, they just don’t want to do their job.
Eugene is in a similar spot but MUCH more favoritism and corruption in that dept.