Now it’s the police’s fault? I’m pretty sure you’re just constructing this narrative as you go.
No, it’s not their fault. They are acting under the guidance of the city council. They didn’t ask to be defunded and allow crime to go rampant. Some of my friends are SF officers and they are livid over what has happened to the city.
I find myself in Portland frequently for work and can tell you firsthand, it’s wayyyyyy better crime-wise than many cities in the US.
Look at my name. I am in Portland a couple of times a week to almost daily. The crime us rampant and the homeless population has exploded.
I expect once drugs are criminalized, we will see order restored fairly quickly.
I dunno, compared to many other cities in the Midwest, south, and southeast Portland really isn’t that bad. A little dirty and a homelessness problem but that’s literally every city right now. It’s actually gotten better since COVID, noticeably.
Ehh, it’s not the drug criminality. It’s a lot of things, including cost of living, Portland police literally refusing to respond to calls and do their job, and lax laws on responding to homelessness. It’s a sad failure of the system, sure. But it’s just not the boogeyman conservative media likes to say it is.
Nobody’s defunding them. They’ve actually been funded more since that became the hot new word. This alone tells me you’re either being lied to by your media source, or you’re making this up as you go. I don’t want to accuse you of anything but. I’m afraid you may be misinformed.
The PPD have plenty of funding, at this point they’re just refusing to do their jobs.
Yeah unfortunately that part’s not a Portland-specific problem either. Too much favoritism in corporations as well as city government these days.
Yep, that’s partially due to the lack of accountability in law enforcement. It’s also a rowdy college town with a huge bar scene.
It’s a good example though because demographically it’s fairly evenly split on the political spectrum (minor lean to Democrat but historically split), so I think it does a good job of showing how other cities have become shitholes and it’s not just a Portland or liberal thing.
Look at my name. I am in Portland a couple of times a week to almost daily. The crime us rampant and the homeless population has exploded.
I expect once drugs are criminalized, we will see order restored fairly quickly.
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/08/nike-permanently-closes-northeast-portland-factory-store/
I dunno, compared to many other cities in the Midwest, south, and southeast Portland really isn’t that bad. A little dirty and a homelessness problem but that’s literally every city right now. It’s actually gotten better since COVID, noticeably.
Ehh, it’s not the drug criminality. It’s a lot of things, including cost of living, Portland police literally refusing to respond to calls and do their job, and lax laws on responding to homelessness. It’s a sad failure of the system, sure. But it’s just not the boogeyman conservative media likes to say it is.
I think that’s a matter of opinion.
PPb isn’t refusing calls. They are short staffed. They lose a ton of officers over the calls to defund.
I won’t overly defend PPb because I think they needed a reckoning. A family member of a friend was beat to death by PPB for not a good reason.
I would like to think that’s the only time I’ve heard a similar story but it isn’t.
The only reason the officers got into any trouble was several of the family members worked for the governor directly.
Nobody’s defunding them. They’ve actually been funded more since that became the hot new word. This alone tells me you’re either being lied to by your media source, or you’re making this up as you go. I don’t want to accuse you of anything but. I’m afraid you may be misinformed.
The PPD have plenty of funding, at this point they’re just refusing to do their jobs.
Yeah unfortunately that part’s not a Portland-specific problem either. Too much favoritism in corporations as well as city government these days.
See? We can agree on stuff haha
Defunding happened but then they corrected. The problem is they lost officers and nobody wants to work there.
https://manhattan.institute/article/portlands-police-staffing-crisis
https://www.streetroots.org/news/2022/08/03/ppb-budget-2022#:~:text=In 2019-2020 PPB received,29%25 of the general fund.
In 2021-2022, this number dipped just 4%, with PPB absorbing at least 29% of the general fund.
https://www.portlandtribune.com/news/defund-the-police-rhetoric-haunts-portland-area-progressives/article_8bd82e18-b531-5ae3-9e01-1887858ef78d.html
Right so the defund argument is BS in 2024, they just don’t want to do their job.
Eugene is in a similar spot but MUCH more favoritism and corruption in that dept.
Eugene is another shithole. I rarely go there. Last time I went there was in December for nicks
Yep, that’s partially due to the lack of accountability in law enforcement. It’s also a rowdy college town with a huge bar scene.
It’s a good example though because demographically it’s fairly evenly split on the political spectrum (minor lean to Democrat but historically split), so I think it does a good job of showing how other cities have become shitholes and it’s not just a Portland or liberal thing.