• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    San Fran laws often strike me as bug fuck nuts. OTOH, this is like so many of the articles we see that have liberals freaking out. It’s a proposal, nothing has happened, nothing probably will.

    LOL, I’ll eat crow if they do manage to pass it!

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      8 months ago

      San Francisco is an interesting town. I used to love it but have not been back in a long time.

      I would go down occasionally to work with the SWAT team.

      It will most likely pass, but I can’t see any of the courts supporting this law. It isn’t the grocery store’s job to find a replacement. The problem is the city is letting itself fall apart. I only know what I heard from my friends but they have said it’s just disgusting now. Most of their jobs moved WFH or to another city to get away from it.

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        San Francisco was a beautiful city. I haven’t been back in 13 years, but what I’ve heard about it from friends who have been is quite heartbreaking. My wife and I definitely left our hearts in San Francisco many years ago, and it’s terrible reading about what a slum major parts of the city have become. The big city problems used to be limited to the Tenderloin District and a few other spots that everyone knew to stay away from, but it sounds like the whole city is dangerous and dirty now. I’m not just talking about stuff I’ve read online either. I have a close friend who goes to probably 20 Giants games every year, and he said that it’s nothing like the city I remember.

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      8 months ago

      It’s a liberal law. So tell me why they should be able to sue ? It’s your peeps who created the law

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          8 months ago

          The intent of the law is the grocery store has to provide the community another grocery store. Stupid. They are moving because they can’t turn a profit.

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            The store in question is Safeway. Safeway is a subsidiary of Albertsons, which is a multi-billion dollar corporation. In 2021 alone they made almost $72B.

            I’m sure they can afford this. The least they can do is prevent a food desert as the result of their actions taken for their shareholders.

            And it’s not that they couldn’t turn a profit. The problem is that public corporations only care about growth, and once growth stops they can’t justify the presence anymore. You know what doesn’t have that problem? Other supermarkets not publicly traded.

            Oh wait those places barely exist anymore because of companies like Albertsons!

            Damn seems pretty reasonable to make them pay for it then.

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              8 months ago

              It isn’t their obligation. Maybe the city should do more to reduce the crime.

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                It doesn’t have to be their obligation to be the right thing to do.

                Just because they can doesn’t mean they should.

                If the Billionaires and corporations buying out the competition to prevent this from happening naturally won’t do it, who will?

                What crime specifically and how does it relate to mega food corps effect on exiting cities after they’ve effectively killed their competition?

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                  The homeless are everywhere. Shoplifting is up. Maybe you haven’t noticed but San Francisco has become a shit show. If I was a business. I’d move out as well

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    8 months ago

    People have no idea of the expenses that must be paid for running a business, even before paying employees. Even the business is losing money and must close, the city could pay the expenses and salaries for 6 months to keep the stores open.

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      7 months ago

      Major grocery stores in California aren’t losing money, they’re pulling record profits. I imagine that some of the smaller corner markets could be hurting, but the major stores are an outright cartel that are swimming in money.

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        I am against the mergers that keep happening in the industry. I would like to see more mergers across the board blocked. Sprint/T-mobile should have never happened. The new Albertsons merger should not happen. There is a point where the company is just to large for a startup to compete.

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          Not only that, but now that they have all of the market there’s no room for the profit growth that their board mandate requires. That means things will continually get progressively worse for the consumers so they can eek out their growth target profits. Raised prices, worse products, shitty subscriptions, stuff like that. For grocery stores it’s the elimination of baggers, then checkers, then charging customers for bags, then raising prices, and all the other shit we’ve endured over the years. It will never get better while the industries are dominated by oligopolies, the system forces things to only get worse.

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            7 months ago

            Board mandates rarely require profit growth. Hell profit is secondary to many companies. Growth is what is normally sought after. I’ve worked for many companies that rarely if ever produced a profit.

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    8 months ago

    Removed by mod