• Tangentism@lemmy.ml
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      I always find not travelling to regions known for sex tourism then being caught in a hotel room with 11 & 12 year old children really helps to maintain my reputation of not being a paedophile.

      But you do you.

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          Yes. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law is a fundamental principle for good reason. For example, we don’t actually know if anything of what we’ve read about him is actually true.

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          How was this guy dealt with by internet vigilantes?

          He was arrested by the local authorities then bolted from the country once released on bail.

          It is not uncustomary for authorities to release names of those arrested.

          Do you want everywhere to change their processes so that your paedophile friends can remain in the shadows?

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            Then what would you call this:

            An image of his passport, including his data and photo, has been posted to social media after details of his case came to light.

            And yes, obviously everybody who thinks people have a right to due process must be a pedophile.

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              Which is especially indicative of their personal qualities in the light of the fact that if he really is a pedophile, proving it won’t be hard.

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                Some countries have laws against committing crimes abroad so they can still be charged at home for this reason, I’m not sure about the US though.

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            Sweet lord the Brazilian tourists are out in force on this thread.

            They found him in a hotel known for sex workers, in a district known for sex work, with an 11 and 12 year old girl.

            What was he doing, tutoring them?

            He fled the country to escape consequences and I think we’re all safer knowing his name and face.

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              I think you’re replying to the wrong person!

              The fact the guy was caught prior to abusing these kids, arrested and now has “his card marked” is great

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          Not really comparable between the media feeding frenzy surrounding the McCann disappearance and a US sex tourist being caught in a hotel with 2 children.

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            I just picked the first one when you google “media ruined life”

            It’s a matter of principle

            There’s hundreds of examples, pick your favorite

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              Again, not really comparable.

              He is not someone like the guy framed by all the Reddit imbecilic sluths after the Boston marathon bombings, nor is he like Christopher Jefferies, accused by the media of murdering one of his tenants, just because he’s a bit eccentric.

              The guy was caught in a hotel room with children in an area known for sex tourism & he chose to bolt the country after his arrest.

              It’s not like it’s an farcical comedy where a series of events transpired and his trousers fell down just as the police entered the room.

              If you don’t want your name released after being arrested in a hotel with local children entirely unrelated to you, then maybe don’t invite local children up to your hotel and be getting arrested.

              Like I said previously, I find it incredibly fucking easy not to be a child raping paedophile. It’s so easy that very little thought goes into it so I don’t have to deal with the consequences of even it being inferred despite no evidence of any crime having taken place.

              So much so that I have zero fucking empathy for anyone that is.

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                Not comparable

                It’s a matter of principle, pick any of hundreds of examples if you want a comparison

                Again, not comparable

                Some people

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                Do you realize how certain one has to be to accuse a person of such a crime?

                Would you want to live in a world where 1 of 100 considered guilty is innocent?

                Would you feel the same way if you’d be that?

                Do you realize how probabilities work?

                If something has a 1 in a 1000 probability, then from time to time it happens.

                And then the final question - do you consider it too much of a bother to go through investigative process with civilized legal proceedings to confirm what is true and reduce the probability of a mistake?

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                  “Blah blah blah I’m defending paedophiles”

                  That’s what your wall of text is saying.

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                    My wall of text is saying that you want innocent people to be condemned, fighting against failsafe for that.

                    Thus you are a criminal and should hang.

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        A 3% probability of this being innocent would be too big to discard.

        People seem too comfortable with huge margins of error when judging others.

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      Their stated goal is to stop sex tourists. Releasing the names of the ones they find seems an efficient way to do so.

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        We all know what he was doing, the comment is saying let the law charge him before the public just brands him.

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      This is the shit pedophiles say… he was in a hotel room with two little girls. What the fuck you think he was gonna do? Play fucking tea?

      Defending pedophiles is some cringe shit my dude and It says a lot about you.

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        nope, that’s called due process under the rule of law. Innocent until proven guilty. His guilt doesn’t seem to have been established beyond reasonable doubt, if I understand correctly.

        Now, if the police had turned up damning evidence, he would not have been sent home, but sentenced. And hopefully been put in jail for a very long time.

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      I knew I was gonna find someone defending this guy in the comments.

      I’m sure he was just helping pay their tuition before feeding some homeless people.

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        No matter what he did, releasing his full name is wrong. Even if he was found in the act the name should never be released

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          Caught it the act? Yeah post his shit, hell string him up. That’s just like a normal way to treat pedophiles. Not caught in the act, yeah thats where it becomes questionable, even if someone is like 90% sure thats what happened, what about the small chance hes innocent. Due process for sure. But definitely dont let him go. The fact they let him off seems questionable, did they really know? Or does someone want to come down hard on sex workers and used some random dude for this.