• Asafum@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Right? Stupid science bitch making up things like “chlorofluorocarbons” and “global cooperation.”

      • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        21
        ·
        3 months ago

        But you people will believe anything that science guy says. All he has to do is say stuff like “chloroflurocarboins” and you get a hardon.

        • Asafum@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          22
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          …there’s a reason why we trust expertise. Don’t be “Guy on Internet.”

          • cqthca@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            although there can be hard paradigms that are wrong and were still taught, isn’t creation-smuggling into textbooks still a thing? In < 100 yrs people will laugh at those of us that believe other than biological natural selection evolution over billions of years

          • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            17
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            But you don’t know any of that either. You just trust the talking head. You’re going on pure theater.

            You people have all the epistemological rigor of 12th century villagers.

            • Bigmouse@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              ·
              3 months ago

              What is it that you are disputimg? The fact that CFC leads to Ozone depletion? Or the fact that it is possible for the person in the tweet to know that?

              • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                12
                ·
                3 months ago

                I’m disputing the confidence with which you people assert your secondhand truths and persecute unbelievers. You are behaving like cattle, herded by a glowing screen.

                • Bigmouse@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Right… so your issue isn’t with the facts as they are stated. You too are not disputing those facts, am i right?

                • EatATaco@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  The vast majority of scientists who are experts in the field, all across the globe, all looking at the data, providing their evidence to each other to either challenge or support, all agreeing on what’s happening.

                  It’s not being a sheep to look at this and realize that what that group is saying is probably right and that you, as a layman, should probably accept what they are saying. That’s actually the opposite of being a sheep, it’s being objective and reasonable.

                  • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    5
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    Yes, in the ideal world, the sheepherders are wise friends and behaving as a sheep (let’s not quibble) is the winning strategy.

                    But I dislike sheep.

            • Asafum@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              3 months ago

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0

              It’s fun that there’s always a “meme” to reply to your nonsense with that fits because your argument in this situation is ridiculous and others have already created media to chastise it as such.

              OF COURSE YOU DONT JUST BLINDLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING FRIENDO.

              Expertise is a thing though, and in this case the topic has been thoroughly discussed and studied. Not sure why you picked this conversation to jump in with your “ah HA! You took it as faith, the same faith people put in the Bible! They didn’t see the facts first hand and neither did you! So I have a Big Brain™ and you’re just a sheep!”

              • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                8
                ·
                3 months ago

                Expertise is a thing? Really? Well now I have seen the light.

                Thank you for stooping to aid this pitiful worm, in his confusion. You truly are a kind and generous soul.

                But really. You people act like 12th century Christian zealots about this stuff.

                • Asafum@feddit.nl
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  I can offer some actual help.

                  You’re trying to make a point, but you’re going about it in literally the worst way. Right now all of your responses to pretty much everyone here are aggressive and insulting. That’s 100% self serving. It makes you feel good but fails at what you’re attempting to do. The first thing that happens when people are confronted with being insulted or being talked down to is to “close” their minds to what you’re trying to say and to get defensive.

                  If after reading this your reaction is “that’s a you problem,” then you don’t actually care about whatever point you were trying to make and you’re just trying to make yourself feel smarter than everyone else.

                  My responses could have had more tact as well.

                  • EatATaco@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    That’s 100% self serving. It makes you feel good but fails at what you’re attempting to do.

                    I would argue that it’s pretty obvious their whole point is to feel good about themselves, as all they’ve done is put other people down in a way that they are “clearly” above, and haven’t even bothered to make any type of point what-so-ever.

                  • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    I start nice then my disgust starts outweighing my reason and it’s downhill.

                    Then the patronizing vultures swoop in.

    • Mobile@leminal.space
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      Respectfully, the word should be stupid. Not dumb.They surely did not have a lack of words. They’re stupid lol

    • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      22
      ·
      3 months ago

      I dunno man. Does believing the popular narrative really make you smart? Does disbelieving it really make you dumb? I don’t think so.

              • Leg@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                6
                ·
                3 months ago

                You’re not really making any meaningful points for me to interact with, and as such I have nothing in myself to defend. You seem to just be really cranky and hostile.

                That’s where your downvotes are coming from, by the way. You’re not appealing to reason; you’re more just being kind of a dick.

                • bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  Well the fellow that I replied to implied that understanding is necessary for belief/disbelief. And then I said that it ain’t so.

                  So you might try addressing that very definite and relevant point.

                  • Leg@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    Yes, I’ve heard of faith before. Philosophically riveting stuff, I’m sure.

                    I’m simply here to say you might try being less intellectually hostile. This extends beyond your interaction here. I agree with your sentiment, but you don’t exactly make people want to meet you where you stand. There is no “them” for you to fight. It’s just us.