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Fuck Israel.
Is that directed at the people, the government, or both?
Is that directed at the people
Did they say “Fuck Israelis”? You have to be either really thin-skinned to take offense to “Fuck insert country here”, or you support the thing that’s being criticized (which in this case is genocide).
Like, I’m Canadian, and when First Nations people say “Fuck Canada” because of the centuries of oppression and genocide they’ve faced, I don’t take personal offense because I do not support the genocide of First Nations people. They’re right, fuck Canada.
Seems obvious to me they’re referring to the genocidal state of Israel.
When I say “fuck the United States,” I’m not talking about my mom, myself, or even my neighbor’s pet budgie. Duh.
So, the government, then?
I’m not the OP of that comment, but again:
Seems obvious to me they’re referring to the genocidal state of Israel.
Not sure what was unclear about that. Maybe you need to take it slowly, word by word. Best of luck to you.
Whether “state” includes the people is ambiguous.
Only to people who completely lack reading comprehension skills and/or basic understanding of English. Or trolls who actually support genocide and deliberately misconstrue things so they can argue against a strawman.
I also have a guess about which one you are.
ad hominem
Do we need to set up some traffic cones and a Venn diagram for you? Maybe a coordination chart?
no one talking about the fact that coverage of this situation was entirely falsified to make it seem like they protested at the hospital when they only just walked by it during their march
Fuck the Israeli government.
Part of getting anti-abortion protests away from hospitals was that we have no protests at hospitals
I imagine it’s the same people in both but how long until they learn to avoid hospitals?
Seems like it might be a bit more nuanced than that. From the article:
There is a federal law, C-3, which deems it an offence for anyone who “intentionally obstructs or interferes with another person’s lawful access to a place at which health services are provided by a health professional.” As far as I saw while I was passing the hospital, the entranceway was clear and no one was stopped from entering or exiting the building. Other than vague mentions, I found no specific evidence that people were prevented from entering or exiting the building.
Update, Feb. 15, 11:06 a.m.: It has come to our attention that the University Ave. entrance to Mount Sinai Hospital closes at 6 p.m. daily. The protest passed by the hospital around 8 p.m., two hours after that entrance had closed. See the bottom of the map below for the University Ave. entrance hours, accessed today from the Mount Sinai Hospital website.
So this may not have broken those laws. There was apparently an incident where the crowd blocked the car of a doctor that was trying to drive home, so perhaps some more care needed to be taken, but I think everyone’s just really on edge right now and looking for things to get angry about.
We have this for no protests within 50m of entrances
Ah, that might apply, then. Though that appears to be specifically about abortion clinics, and my googling suggests Mount Sinai might not provide abortions, so it might still be fiddly if it actually went to court.
Even if not, they should probably have still routed around it if only in recognition of the "on edge"ness.
To me that article suggests they do because their problem was with only getting rid of one of the twins which they only do for triplets + and they have a women’s clinic
I wonder more if it applies to all entrances or just to the clinic