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The original was posted on /r/simpsonsshitposting by /u/maninplainview on 2023-12-25 08:28:44.
Punk IS not was, it always has been and always will be.
So classic rock IS, as well?
Only if you want to start circumcising mosquitos here.
Classical as a word typically refers to the period of time the Greeks were at their height.
Classical Rock uses the spirit of the word Classical to describe this era of rock and roll as the basis for modern Rock and Roll.
Now if you want to use the term classical rock to describe an era, then no that era is gone. If you want to decide that only the period of the 70s and early 80s that punk was as you describe it then SURE punk is dead.
But punk started before the 70s and will continue long after you and I are dead.
By the arbitrary definition that punk was a genre of rock music that existed only during a certain time period… sure it was and no longer is.
I simply champion the idea that labeling punk as a genre is ironic in and of itself, to say it fits in a narrow definition is also kinda ironic.
Yeah, and new bands get added every year as time marches on. Your initial comment is insane though. Country, metal, electronica, they all continue on, but punk has died…? That’s not how music works at all. Punk is still happening every day. From the classics you mentioned, to some shitty band who only formed last week and are still thrashing out their first song in their parents garage, it’s all out there. Plenty of ways to find it too. Speciality punk record labels and record stores, punk venues, plenty of playlists to be found.
You’re not getting my point. Classic rock wasn’t called classic rock when it was new. No one in the 70’s were calling Pink Floyd a classic rock band. They were just a rock band.
Punk (music) was a thing that happened, not a thing that IS happening.
Rock music sis still created though… You’re basically saying “70s rock could only happen in the 70s so therefore punk doesn’t exist anymore”. The “70s rock” part of that sentence isn’t even true, let alone the jump from it to the back half.
Exactly! And they’re constantly adding new songs to the canon! Hell, they’ve added some nirvana and foo fighters tracks!
No, what I’m saying is that in the 70’s, what we know now as “classic rock” was simply called “rock” music. I thought I explained this pretty well already.
Similarly, in the 70’s punk was called punk. What we have now that is calling itself punk- in my opinion, can’t be punk. Because punk WAS. Like how classic rock WAS.
There are no NEW classic rock bands. Ergo, there are no new punk bands.
Then be clearer. You asked if classic rock is a thing. And I answered that, it still is a thing with new songs added every year. And I say again, your initial comment about punk music is insane. I made it pretty fucking clear about how it is still a genre that is still happening to this day. You ignoring that doesn’t discount what I wrote.
And I said in my original comment that this is my opinion. I’m not going to apologize because it bothers you. If you don’t like it or agree, you’re free to move along. No one is forcing you to debate this.
Nah, you literally posted on a forum. The whole point is to drive conversation. If you don’t like being called out for saying idiotic things, then don’t post. Don’t try and turn this around and say that this is some sort of failing on my behalf. And yeah you have an opinion, but it’s a prejudiced opinion. Ie. one without just grounds or sufficient knowledge. That means it’s not a well founded one. And opinions like that have been called out since language was formed, bit late to start crying about it happening now.
It’s a failing on your behalf for resorting to petty insults because you don’t like someone’s opinion. And for the record- it’s people like you that are driving people back to Reddit. Because when people see that they can’t post their opinions without being insulted by people who can’t accept that others think differently- they go back to places like Reddit- where even though there are even more people like you there-
At least there’s more content to enjoy.
Going to block you now as you clearly have nothing of value to offer any future discussions I might find myself in.
Oh please. There’s no flocking back to Reddit. You got your feelings hurt and you think that’s part of some grand plan? Spare me. And like I said, you posted an opinion based in infactual information, that will get called out on any internet forum you go to, and will get called out in most real life scenarios too. Just because you have an opinion doesn’t mean that whatever you say on that topic is suddenly protected from any criticism. Racism is an opinion. Do we suddenly not stand against that now? You are pathetic…
Wouldn’t that be classic punk then?
Yes, but they won’t release new music, because then it wouldn’t be classic anymore.
Same with punk. Now you get it.
Rock
punk
classic rock
classic punk