It seems like France stands out among terrorist attacks in the news. Is it because they are more likely to be critical of Muslim culture than other European nations? Is it because there is a security failure allowing terrorist to come in and organize better?

  • Devi@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    The Hebdo drawing wasn’t light hearted fun though, it was right wingers trying to wind up religious people. Obviously there’s never any excuse for murder but publicly attacking a whole religion will upset a lot of people, and things can lead on from that.

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      1 year ago

      Dude, ten years earlier they drew Jesus, Mohammad, Buddah etc having group sex together.

      France stands for the right to express yourself. Fuck those idiots thinking they were somewhat responsible for any kind of terrorist attack.

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        1 year ago

        They’ve done many many offensive things. They’re an awful publication and it’s disgusting that they’re allowed to exist.

        I’m not sure the rest of France reflects your support as there’s been both local and worldwide protests about them over the years.

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          Who should decide that someone has the right to draw an image and not another one? That’s how dictatorships starts, by limiting criticism.

          If you think we should limit criticism (it’s not like believing in Jesus, Mohammed etc haven’t got millions killed and worse) you could start by limiting your own criticism. You know, to show how good it is to do it.

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            It’s not that simple is it? If you set a church on fire then should you go free because of past issues by the church?

            On drawing, should you be able to draw your friends child being shot? Again, these are not issues you should kill for, but you can understand why people are mad.

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      Her clothing wasn’t tasteful, though. It was a woman’s attempt to wind up men. Obviously there’s no excuse for rape, but wearing clothing in public designed to be provocative will attract attention from a lot of people, and things can lead on from that.

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        What a wild false equivelency!

        A persons clothing is a personal choice.

        Ripping off a strangers clothing in the street is an attack.

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          But making a drawing isn’t (a personal choice), how interesting.

          Well actually not interesting at all, because you seemt just to be trolling (you just invented the part of ripping clothes off in the streets, talk of false equivalence) how boring.

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            1 year ago

            A lot of people misunderstand who Charlie Hebdo are. So this -

            https://twitter.com/AkyolinEnglish/status/1622980163817336834?lang=en

            Is their reaction to the Turkey earthquake, There were roughly 51k killed, and their cartoon was that this was good because that was less muslims they had to kill.

            Their ‘Mohammed edition’ was a full comic about how much they hated muslims. It was pure racism and in many countries they would have been prosecuted for hate speech.

            They are a hate group.

            This is the meaning of two wrongs don’t make a right. Charlie Hebdo are disgusting, the people who attacked them so severely were absolutely wrong, but neither act makes either of them right.

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              I don’t think Charlie Hebdo is very funny often, but you just grasping at straws here. You willfully misinterpret, no actually you just blindly follow a twitter that misinterpret something.

              You know, they do this to anger people. To get followers. Etc.

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                This is not a twitter I follow, I had to search out the cartoon to explain the issue and this was the first result.

                But I do agree with your second point, Charlie Hebdo do this to anger people, to get followers. They are looking to recruit the far right and create backlash against certain groups.

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      They were not right winger by any way, quite the opposite, they were100% anticlerical far left. Maybe stop talking about something you know nothing about?