And Quebec separatism wasn’t its own particular flavour of pre-MAGA MAGA? I think Quebec would have done a fine job of turning it into a shitshow on its own.
And Quebec separatism wasn’t its own particular flavour of pre-MAGA MAGA?
No. It has had more of an affinity with the political left, and people in Quebec actually feel like they’re not part of Canada. Meanwhile, here, separating is a brand new idea with the same basic flavour as building a really big wall (just replace “Mexico” with “Ottawa”). Just 10 years ago it was on the same level of credibility as going back to serious monarchism.
It’s obviously a form of nationalism, but that’s not really what I was getting at.
It’s obviously a form of nationalism, but that’s not really what I was getting at.
Well, that’s what I was getting at. MAGAism is at its heart a nationalist movement, an “our people are better than those people and we’ll be better off keeping those people out!” Thing.
It was much more akin to Black liberation (and even had some ties with the Black Panthers back in the 70s) and Irish republicanism than with American right wing nationalism. I know it’s easy to group all nationalisms together and brand them with MAGA, but liberation movements often branded themselves with the “nationalist” label.
Oh, alright. I was trying to say that it’s just a literal, precise, probably traceable carbon copy of the US movement, and the Alberta separatism aspect has always just been an excuse. I don’t disagree that nationalism is bad, and I’m glad Quebec didn’t leave because that would be just another border to get in the way.
And Quebec separatism wasn’t its own particular flavour of pre-MAGA MAGA? I think Quebec would have done a fine job of turning it into a shitshow on its own.
No. It has had more of an affinity with the political left, and people in Quebec actually feel like they’re not part of Canada. Meanwhile, here, separating is a brand new idea with the same basic flavour as building a really big wall (just replace “Mexico” with “Ottawa”). Just 10 years ago it was on the same level of credibility as going back to serious monarchism.
It’s obviously a form of nationalism, but that’s not really what I was getting at.
Well, that’s what I was getting at. MAGAism is at its heart a nationalist movement, an “our people are better than those people and we’ll be better off keeping those people out!” Thing.
That’s really not the mentality or sentiment behind Quebec separatism. Separatists don’t believe they are better or a “higher race” than anybody else.
In fact they’re just tired of being treated as second class citizens and not being respected as a founding nation of this country.
It was much more akin to Black liberation (and even had some ties with the Black Panthers back in the 70s) and Irish republicanism than with American right wing nationalism. I know it’s easy to group all nationalisms together and brand them with MAGA, but liberation movements often branded themselves with the “nationalist” label.
Oh, alright. I was trying to say that it’s just a literal, precise, probably traceable carbon copy of the US movement, and the Alberta separatism aspect has always just been an excuse. I don’t disagree that nationalism is bad, and I’m glad Quebec didn’t leave because that would be just another border to get in the way.