• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    02 years ago

    This is funny because you can apply the same logic here with Luhansk and Donetsk but you don’t.

    You could only apply the same logic if you completely ignore reality and history. Here’s what Jacobin, a western publication has to say about the events of 2014, so maybe stop trying to rewrite history here https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

    Svoboda and Right Sector? Or are you talking about the current government of Ukraine?

    Current government in Ukraine is full of extremists an has even integrated Azov battalion, who are unapologetic nazis, into their regular military.

    Sure, ironically if you typically invade a country like what Russia did, you are going to spur some serious nationalism and embolden those elements.

    [citation needed]

    I’m not going to disagree that the US had trained people who are part of the parties previously mentioned and I am not exactly supportive of this as well.

    Stop trying to rewrite history. Russia has never been the main aggressor here, and anybody claiming this is either an utter ignoramus or a liar.

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      -12 years ago

      You could only apply the same logic if you completely ignore reality and history. Here’s what Jacobin, a western publication has to say about the events of 2014, so maybe stop trying to rewrite history here https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

      There is nothing really in that article that objects to my argument. So, I don’t know what you are on about. Ironically, by providing this argument, you actually proved my point when you said: [citation needed].

      So I guess, have you read the article?

      Current government in Ukraine is full of extremists an has even integrated Azov battalion, who are unapologetic nazis, into their regular military.

      And you have Russian crusaders that are wanting to return Ukraine back to Russia. Ironically, you could just say that Russia is now a hotbed of white supremacists.

      There is at least a case with the most recent election that those elements were on the downfall in Ukraine. However, I doubt you want that information to get in the way of your narrative.

      Russian funding has been linked to fascist and nationalist parties in other countries: (National Rally, UK Conservative Party, AfD). Sure, I don’t approve of Azov Battaltion and shit like that needs to be removed. However, there is no moral high ground to be achieved here when you when Russia literally does the same thing and is sponsoring RNU in Donbas (which are Russian Neo-Nazis).

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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        -12 years ago

        So I guess, have you read the article?

        Have you?

        And you have Russian crusaders that are wanting to return Ukraine back to Russia. Ironically, you could just say that Russia is now a hotbed of white supremacists.

        Ukraine is run by literal Fascists, but yeah ok.