Why do they keep hooking onto suspension arms? At least we are getting the tow company to pay for new arms, plus the alignment, and two weeks of rental car because the arms were B/O Germany. Will cost significantly more than what the tow cost.

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    Have never seen a car that does not have tow points, and I have been a licenced tech for 30 years.

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      Buick regal, Chevy Cruze, Impalas

      Point is moot if it only has a front OR rear… Not helpful when you can’t orient the car to the nearest one. Suspension arms will be used.

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        The regal and Cruze both have them if you’re talking about the 2010ish+ models. I would be surprised if the Impala didn’t have one too, but maybe it didn’t.

        Regal

        Cruze

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      New Honda Civic does not have a factory mounted tow point.

      Edit: Apparently stating facts are combative.

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        The do, they’re just hidden behind panels on the fascia like most modern cars.

        On the front it’s hidden behind some trim:

        And on the back there’s a reason why there’s a small seam in the fascia in this area:

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          That shows the hatchback model. That is a different body style than mine. Thank you though. It doesn’t matter, you will still say I’m wrong.

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            I am not trying to prove your wrong / there are no awards for arguing on the internet.

            I’m just super surprised that they wouldn’t be included as towing a modern vehicle without one is very difficulty due to fascias being a ton lower to the ground than they used to be. Even if you can reach a solid under vehicle tow point, putting tension on whatever you attached to means the fascia will probably be in the way. Tthink loose rope on ground vs taught rope cutting through the fascia.

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              I agree, its not good. Its hard to prove.

              https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/tow-hook.5003/

              Here’s a forum link where someone said there’s no threads in the front.

              I didn’t build or design the car. I said that it wasn’t there.

              Im upset that its not there. I travel a lot and don’t even have a spare tire from the factory to save weight. Anyways I digress.

              My point is, the tow point doesn’t exist on a new model 2023 Honda Civic si in America and it sucks not having it.

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        So that’s not true like every other “new” (since the late 2000s at least) car there is a tow hook in the truck that screws in somewhere behind a plastic flap on the bumper. Tow truck drivers have had decades to learn but they refuse to listen. I have had a lot of experience being towed(grew up and still have older cars) and when I tell them where to hook up it’s a 20-30 minute conversation for me to try and convince them to not absolutely destroy my suspension because I don’t want to spend my time changing working parts and aligning a car I have already aligned. Sometimes that conversation doesn’t work and I just have to have them leave and call AAA again and hope someone else comes.

        This is not the fault of the manufacturers in any case it is the fault of the tow truck drivers not educating themselves

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          Prove it, I have one and there is no flap.

          Edit to clarify, i have checked the manual, walked around vehicle several times looking very close for this hidden flap, and searched the internet for the new model civic, 2023 or newer.

          Edit: aparrently asking for proof, and where it is for a Japanese and doesn’t fit and is for a Japanese car is combative.

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              Description: EX; Japan Built; PTM

              Huh, not my car.

              DOES NOT FIT your: 2023 Honda Civic Si 4 Cyl 1.5L

              DOES NOT FIT your: 2023 Honda Civic EX 4 Cyl 1.5L

              Additional Compatibility Questions What is the first character of your VIN? J - Japan Other

              Edit: apparently requesting proof and showing that it doesn’t fit my car is combative.

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                I was gonna ask you to give us your exact car model, but now i’m just kind of tired of you being combative in every comment.

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                  Im not trying to be combative. Im saying its not there. And was told I was wrong.

                  When I know for a fact its not there.

                  There is no rear tow hook flap. There is no front flap.

                  Take it or leave it.

                  Edit it literally says Japan Built in your link. Yall are the ones being combative.

                  Also, how the fuck am I being combative when I’m am stating a fact and y’all don’t believe me.