Trump on Canada: "I spoke to Governor Trudeau ... they don't have military protection, and you take a look at what's going on out there ... people are in danger ... they need our protection."
I mean he isn’t really wrong as much as people hate to hear it. We have relied on being next to America for decades and have cut our military spending for decades. It is not a party issue as both have done it.
And in danger of what the world is changing and Canada needs to get it’s shit together. I thought cocos would have been the wake up call, but maybe this well be.
No, this is a crock of shit. Our best defence is the logistical nightmare of invading over an ocean, which we happen to be surrounded by three. No yank has ever died in defence of Canadian soil, only Canadian lives have been lost being dragged into foreign US wars. If we’ve let our military be underfunded it’s because we haven’t had any significant threats, and if we need to fund it now it’s because our only significant threat is the USA.
Not only that, but the US spends American taxpayer money at arms manufacturers based in the US. American taxpayers are subsidizing those businesses. If Canada were to buy weapons to boost its defense spending, it would almost certainly be shopping at those arms manufacturers because Canada doesn’t have much of a defense industry to buy from. Why should Canada be supporting the US defense industry?
And then there’s what the US gains from its defense spending. Remember Haliburton in the gulf war(s)? The US uses its military to benefit its industries. Even though Canada has participated in virtually all the US adventures, I really doubt that Canadian companies benefited from those wars the same way the US companies did.
I mean yes, but what are we in danger of? One main reason we’ve dropped our military numbers, as far as I understand it, is that we don’t have any serious enemies that are close to home. Russia invading over the artic has been the only “close” enemy, and even then it’s been totally unrealistic for that to occur.
While you’re aren’t wrong, what do you think we can do militarily to stop the nation with the largest nation in the world, 10 times the population, and one of the largest economies in the world? I don’t think we can get out of this by spending more on our military. Spending more on our militias, and include unconventional warfare training? Well, I don’t think that would stop the invasion, but it would make the occupation a nightmare.
Supposing an invasion does happen, to address the question of what you can do, just look at America’s losing streak of wars that has been ongoing for 50+ years.
I mean it’s a bit on the nose even for Trump - “you’re in danger, from us, so we’re going to invade you so we won’t threaten you anymore”.
Beyond that it doesn’t matter what we do as a country for military funding/improvements. If the US wants to invade, they will. It’s literally impossible for a Country 1/10th the size to defend and win an outright fight. It’s the occupation/pacification/integration bit that Canada would fight back on with guerilla warfare and have a chance of keeping them out, but that has nothing to do with military funding/spending
I mean he isn’t really wrong as much as people hate to hear it. We have relied on being next to America for decades and have cut our military spending for decades. It is not a party issue as both have done it.
And in danger of what the world is changing and Canada needs to get it’s shit together. I thought cocos would have been the wake up call, but maybe this well be.
No, this is a crock of shit. Our best defence is the logistical nightmare of invading over an ocean, which we happen to be surrounded by three. No yank has ever died in defence of Canadian soil, only Canadian lives have been lost being dragged into foreign US wars. If we’ve let our military be underfunded it’s because we haven’t had any significant threats, and if we need to fund it now it’s because our only significant threat is the USA.
Not only that, but the US spends American taxpayer money at arms manufacturers based in the US. American taxpayers are subsidizing those businesses. If Canada were to buy weapons to boost its defense spending, it would almost certainly be shopping at those arms manufacturers because Canada doesn’t have much of a defense industry to buy from. Why should Canada be supporting the US defense industry?
And then there’s what the US gains from its defense spending. Remember Haliburton in the gulf war(s)? The US uses its military to benefit its industries. Even though Canada has participated in virtually all the US adventures, I really doubt that Canadian companies benefited from those wars the same way the US companies did.
I mean yes, but what are we in danger of? One main reason we’ve dropped our military numbers, as far as I understand it, is that we don’t have any serious enemies that are close to home. Russia invading over the artic has been the only “close” enemy, and even then it’s been totally unrealistic for that to occur.
As much as it pains me to say it as an American, you’re in danger from the US, now. It is now a fascist dictatorship with imperialist goals.
While you’re aren’t wrong, what do you think we can do militarily to stop the nation with the largest nation in the world, 10 times the population, and one of the largest economies in the world? I don’t think we can get out of this by spending more on our military. Spending more on our militias, and include unconventional warfare training? Well, I don’t think that would stop the invasion, but it would make the occupation a nightmare.
Supposing an invasion does happen, to address the question of what you can do, just look at America’s losing streak of wars that has been ongoing for 50+ years.
I mean it’s a bit on the nose even for Trump - “you’re in danger, from us, so we’re going to invade you so we won’t threaten you anymore”.
Beyond that it doesn’t matter what we do as a country for military funding/improvements. If the US wants to invade, they will. It’s literally impossible for a Country 1/10th the size to defend and win an outright fight. It’s the occupation/pacification/integration bit that Canada would fight back on with guerilla warfare and have a chance of keeping them out, but that has nothing to do with military funding/spending
What do you expect from a country that believes it can bomb others into “democracy”?
(Saying that as an American. Also, I’m sorry, please take in vermont as a territory we’d make a great addition to the maple syrup confederation)
Protectung us from who? The United state was the only country who tried to invade us
I fear that threat may be resurfacing.