I’ve been on all kinds of medications from age 7 to 26.
Ritallin sped up my heart and I couldn’t keep up in gym class because I was constantly catching my breath.
Concerta/dexadrine took away my appetite. One bite every meal, then I was full. I was pathetically skinny and got called anorexic all the time.
Straterra made me tired and drousy all day, I was sexually frustrated because my dick would REFUSE to get hard, and then I would wake up at night, not being able to sleep.
I’m 31 and madication free for 6 years, and have learned to overcome my ADHD on my own. Never swallowing a other ADHD pill again, fuck that shit entirely.
I’ve been on Adderall and Vyvanse for ADHD and binge eating disorder.
The Vyvanse helps a ton with the binges. My doc had suggested I try Concerta if I’m having a hard time finding Vyvanse this month. I was able to find Vyvanse but I had no idea appetite suppression could be so much in the Concerta. Probably way easier than finding/taking any of those fashionable diet injectables. And generic Vyvanse still gets on backorder…
Do it, if you have a problem with binge eating it could do you wonders. I’m the opposite, even off meds I’ve always had a hard time gaining weight no matter how much I eat. It’s probably the beetus that will get me with how much junk I munch on every time I use cannabis lol. I’m 6’2 170lbs
why do you need to gain weight??? what you describe is a good functioning metabolism. only thing you can do is eat more protein and train to put on muscle, you will not gain fat until you purpoesfully break your metabolism.
Idk, maybe all the “you’re too skinny” “you’re anorexic” “you need a .milkshake” I’ve been hearing all my life.
But yeah muscle is the kind of weight I’ve tried to gain. In my early 20s I spent 6 days a week in thr gym for 6 months and only gained 15 lbs. I drank 4L of milk a day. I ate a breast of chicken every day. I took in as .any grams of protein per meal, as I weighed in lbs. I took mutant mass and farted it all out. It was exhausting. Then I started a new career, and life got too busy to keep at it, spending 2-3 hrs a day in traffic. It was just too much so I lost all that weight
I mean, yeah a bit of fat would be neat too. But I find that just as hard to put on as muscle. Holy hell I don’t think I could take in any more food than I already do, idk where it all goes!
there is a theory that lean mass hyperresponders only take what they need, while discarding what they dont need. so for you, calories in = calories out doesnt count at all.
no. you need fat AND protein to build muscle. the fat you eat doesnt get turned into fat; it gets turned into buildings blocks for your body. fat is hugely important in building all kinds of things. as is protein.
The link is pretty interesting. Apparently a lot of eating disorders can be related to ADHD…namely BED, anorexia, and bulimia.
With BED, supposedly it’s about instant gratification. That’s likely why a lot of people binge on a specific type of food…like sweets or saltys. Some of it can even be an OCD behavior.
I do wish it was given nearly the same attention as the other eating disorders. It wasn’t even until a couple of years ago that I heard of it and the specific markers (like eating well past being full, or binging in secret). But most people have never heard of it because “har har fat person”.
This is also why I believe obesity should often be handled as a symptom of mental distress, not something that exists in a vacuum.
I privately think it has something to do with a broken glucose metabolism. basically, your cells are out of energy. so you have cravings for all kinds of stuff that ramps up your basic metabolic rate.
or you crave food. if you eat food, like with sugar and carbohydrates, your blood sugar is ramped up, if blood sugar has a spike, insulin gets released, and you need this insukline to push the glucose out of your blood in your cells, so you end up having energy. and that makes you happy.
so thats what i believe
alcohol gives you energy by the way, like. in the individal cell.
so the instant gratification is your cells having energy.
I dono… I just always wanted to be normal, not rely on a drug that gives me undesirable side effects, and if I forget to take it, I have a terrible day.
I’m still trying to learn to fit in every day, and it’s hard. I still slip up, and have my days some times. It’s not going away either, but this is how I choose to do it
Oh yeah, three hours of high school swim practice and seven of school without a bite to eat on Concerta. Awful. And I’d stay up til 3 am every night with vyvanse. I’d consider trying something else but I’m 0-2.
I agree. As someone who has been taking 20mg of Adderall since I was 16 (I’m 20 years old now), I feel like I don’t really need it. It was great in the beginning and really helped, but I don’t see how it’s been making a difference in my life anymore. I’ve gone up and down in dosages and tried different medications, but the reality is, I just don’t want to take it because I feel like it isn’t me. I feel like I will do damage to myself down the line if I keep taking it. It doesn’t help me socially; I only feel more anxious, no matter the dosage.
I can still focus just as okay without it, not as great as when I’m on my meds, but I can work with it. Here’s some things that have helped me:
1.) Start reading books. Seriously, it helps with concentrating a lot, at first it may suck, but keep doing it and eventually you’ll just start doing it out of habit.
2.) Get rid of any distractions. (I’m in the process of eliminating the need of my cell phone and switching purely to a laptop)
3.) Excersise your brain. (e.g. Play chess)
4.) Keep you and your room clean.
5.) Invest some time into living minimally. (e.g. Too many outfits/laundry? Donate them until you only have what you need.)
6.) Eat healthy, goto the gym, make friends, feel good about yourself.
One of the biggest downsides has to be that it affects my sex life negatively. It makes me last WAY too long in bed, so I end up just getting blue balled sometimes. Sorry TMI, but it’s the truth! P.S. for any men considering, it makes your pecker look small.
Hell yeah! Damn gonna have to get more into novels now and try that.
Sonce my mid 20s I’ve played a lot less COD and a lot more strategy and puzzle type games when I game
I lose my fucking mind if my apartment is a mess. Some days I can’t do anything until I clean up my kitchen counter and get all the dishes in the dishwasher. I’m in trades and getting dirty and sticky and sweaty doesn’t even make me bat an eye anymore.
Number 6 is very most important. A lot of the time our depression, lack of focus, mind fog, etc is all just due to shitty diet. Sometimes I get to the point where I need a hard reset so I eat a big ass salad with lots of vegetables and chicken for dinner, and then I feel brand new again and ready to tackle anything.
Lastly, lasting too long in bed is definitely part of what I experienced on Straterra. >!Couple days after I quit, I had the most intense, mind blowing orgasm ever. It was like my first time all over again!!<
I took the concerta with my cereal before school as prescribed by my doctor. Lunch I was able to get down my pb&j, but dinner was impossible past the second or third bite
My point wasn’t that people shouldn’t do what’s right for them. It was that for many people these medications make a huge difference and without them they they might find themselves suffering from things like depression, anxiety, isolation, etc.
I’ve been on all kinds of medications from age 7 to 26.
Ritallin sped up my heart and I couldn’t keep up in gym class because I was constantly catching my breath.
Concerta/dexadrine took away my appetite. One bite every meal, then I was full. I was pathetically skinny and got called anorexic all the time.
Straterra made me tired and drousy all day, I was sexually frustrated because my dick would REFUSE to get hard, and then I would wake up at night, not being able to sleep.
I’m 31 and madication free for 6 years, and have learned to overcome my ADHD on my own. Never swallowing a other ADHD pill again, fuck that shit entirely.
Glad you got it under control without the pills that made you feel bad. Happy for you
Thank you!
I’ve been on Adderall and Vyvanse for ADHD and binge eating disorder.
The Vyvanse helps a ton with the binges. My doc had suggested I try Concerta if I’m having a hard time finding Vyvanse this month. I was able to find Vyvanse but I had no idea appetite suppression could be so much in the Concerta. Probably way easier than finding/taking any of those fashionable diet injectables. And generic Vyvanse still gets on backorder…
Maybe I’ll bring up trying that next time.
Do it, if you have a problem with binge eating it could do you wonders. I’m the opposite, even off meds I’ve always had a hard time gaining weight no matter how much I eat. It’s probably the beetus that will get me with how much junk I munch on every time I use cannabis lol. I’m 6’2 170lbs
You dont need to gain weight
That’s a first
why do you need to gain weight??? what you describe is a good functioning metabolism. only thing you can do is eat more protein and train to put on muscle, you will not gain fat until you purpoesfully break your metabolism.
Idk, maybe all the “you’re too skinny” “you’re anorexic” “you need a .milkshake” I’ve been hearing all my life.
But yeah muscle is the kind of weight I’ve tried to gain. In my early 20s I spent 6 days a week in thr gym for 6 months and only gained 15 lbs. I drank 4L of milk a day. I ate a breast of chicken every day. I took in as .any grams of protein per meal, as I weighed in lbs. I took mutant mass and farted it all out. It was exhausting. Then I started a new career, and life got too busy to keep at it, spending 2-3 hrs a day in traffic. It was just too much so I lost all that weight
you forgot fat ;-)
I mean, yeah a bit of fat would be neat too. But I find that just as hard to put on as muscle. Holy hell I don’t think I could take in any more food than I already do, idk where it all goes!
there is a theory that lean mass hyperresponders only take what they need, while discarding what they dont need. so for you, calories in = calories out doesnt count at all.
no. you need fat AND protein to build muscle. the fat you eat doesnt get turned into fat; it gets turned into buildings blocks for your body. fat is hugely important in building all kinds of things. as is protein.
the meds help with managing your feelings, thats what you did with binge eating. scientists discuss how binge eating and adhd are realated.
The link is pretty interesting. Apparently a lot of eating disorders can be related to ADHD…namely BED, anorexia, and bulimia.
With BED, supposedly it’s about instant gratification. That’s likely why a lot of people binge on a specific type of food…like sweets or saltys. Some of it can even be an OCD behavior.
I do wish it was given nearly the same attention as the other eating disorders. It wasn’t even until a couple of years ago that I heard of it and the specific markers (like eating well past being full, or binging in secret). But most people have never heard of it because “har har fat person”.
This is also why I believe obesity should often be handled as a symptom of mental distress, not something that exists in a vacuum.
I privately think it has something to do with a broken glucose metabolism. basically, your cells are out of energy. so you have cravings for all kinds of stuff that ramps up your basic metabolic rate.
or you crave food. if you eat food, like with sugar and carbohydrates, your blood sugar is ramped up, if blood sugar has a spike, insulin gets released, and you need this insukline to push the glucose out of your blood in your cells, so you end up having energy. and that makes you happy.
so thats what i believe
alcohol gives you energy by the way, like. in the individal cell.
so the instant gratification is your cells having energy.
How do you cope?
mountains of powerful cannabis and cheap coffee
Cope with what exactly?
Having to function in current society with ADHD I presume
I dono… I just always wanted to be normal, not rely on a drug that gives me undesirable side effects, and if I forget to take it, I have a terrible day.
I’m still trying to learn to fit in every day, and it’s hard. I still slip up, and have my days some times. It’s not going away either, but this is how I choose to do it
Answer: denial.
I’m not sure I follow.
Nothing, just being silly
Eeeyyyy!! 🤙🏻
denial swimming in a sauce of selfneglect, selfabuse and alcoholism
Oh yeah, three hours of high school swim practice and seven of school without a bite to eat on Concerta. Awful. And I’d stay up til 3 am every night with vyvanse. I’d consider trying something else but I’m 0-2.
I agree. As someone who has been taking 20mg of Adderall since I was 16 (I’m 20 years old now), I feel like I don’t really need it. It was great in the beginning and really helped, but I don’t see how it’s been making a difference in my life anymore. I’ve gone up and down in dosages and tried different medications, but the reality is, I just don’t want to take it because I feel like it isn’t me. I feel like I will do damage to myself down the line if I keep taking it. It doesn’t help me socially; I only feel more anxious, no matter the dosage.
I can still focus just as okay without it, not as great as when I’m on my meds, but I can work with it. Here’s some things that have helped me:
1.) Start reading books. Seriously, it helps with concentrating a lot, at first it may suck, but keep doing it and eventually you’ll just start doing it out of habit.
2.) Get rid of any distractions. (I’m in the process of eliminating the need of my cell phone and switching purely to a laptop)
3.) Excersise your brain. (e.g. Play chess)
4.) Keep you and your room clean.
5.) Invest some time into living minimally. (e.g. Too many outfits/laundry? Donate them until you only have what you need.)
6.) Eat healthy, goto the gym, make friends, feel good about yourself.
One of the biggest downsides has to be that it affects my sex life negatively. It makes me last WAY too long in bed, so I end up just getting blue balled sometimes. Sorry TMI, but it’s the truth! P.S. for any men considering, it makes your pecker look small.
Hell yeah! Damn gonna have to get more into novels now and try that. Sonce my mid 20s I’ve played a lot less COD and a lot more strategy and puzzle type games when I game
I lose my fucking mind if my apartment is a mess. Some days I can’t do anything until I clean up my kitchen counter and get all the dishes in the dishwasher. I’m in trades and getting dirty and sticky and sweaty doesn’t even make me bat an eye anymore.
Number 6 is very most important. A lot of the time our depression, lack of focus, mind fog, etc is all just due to shitty diet. Sometimes I get to the point where I need a hard reset so I eat a big ass salad with lots of vegetables and chicken for dinner, and then I feel brand new again and ready to tackle anything.
Lastly, lasting too long in bed is definitely part of what I experienced on Straterra. >!Couple days after I quit, I had the most intense, mind blowing orgasm ever. It was like my first time all over again!!<
the ritalin issue was probably salt and mineral / vitamin deficency. yeah, you need to eat before taking concerta, people just dont listen ;-)
dont think thats the main issue here
I do
lol obviously
I took the concerta with my cereal before school as prescribed by my doctor. Lunch I was able to get down my pb&j, but dinner was impossible past the second or third bite
exactly what i went through, everything tastes like cardboard.
Yeah, fuck life changing medication! White knuckle it like a true american.
I’m not American
Yeah, fuck life changing side effects! White knuckle it like a true american.
My point wasn’t that people shouldn’t do what’s right for them. It was that for many people these medications make a huge difference and without them they they might find themselves suffering from things like depression, anxiety, isolation, etc.
That’s prob beyond you, tho.
Yeah you’re right and that’s great for them, but I’m not part of that group
Also, For many people these medications destroy their bodies and lives. The world isn’t black and white
so, where i can read about how ritalin destroys the life and bodies of adhd patients?
Not when administered by a health care professional and properly monitored
healthline.com
i looked up ritalin on that side, and there was not a single article about ritalin destroying bodies and lifes.