• SpaceCowboy
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    3 months ago

    We know paradoxes exist in the real world. Therefore proving that the existence of God is paradoxical does not prove that God doesn’t exist. It simply proves that God is paradoxical. Which most people knew already.

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      3 months ago

      Paradoxes don’t “exist” in the real world. Reality isn’t paradoxical. Paradoxes are what we call problems we haven’t found answers for yet. They point to unsolved questions, false correlations, and wrong premises - precisely because nothing in the real world can actually be paradoxical.

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        3 months ago

        We know of apparent paradoxes, like the conflict between quantum gravity and relativistic gravity

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          Exactly - apparent paradoxes. There’s a lot of theoretical work attempting to solve it. The paradox isn’t the end point of what we assume to be the truth, it’s our way of describing a unsolved problem hinting to the fact that there’s something we don’t understand just yet.

          To Copernicus what he learned about the geocentric world and what he observed in his astronomical research was a paradox. It didn’t make sense, so he started to question the premise. Learning more about the nature of things eliminated the apparent paradox. Today we know better.

          The Epicurean paradox has a very obvious solution as well. The premise of an all knowing, all powerful, and all-loving god is wrong. A god of this nature doesn’t exist. The people who came up with the idea were wrong. Simple as that. As soon as we accept that, the paradox is resolved. Because it was a problem of thought - an error - not a problem of reality.

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      3 months ago

      You can’t prove nor disprove that you’re a big brain floating in the void just imagining the world around you. ( Boltzmann Brain)

      Proving a concept which is unverifiable by nature is impossible. On that level of argumentation everything is as valid as anything else if you label one of such concepts as “true”. Either all religions are wrong or all are right. Either you are a Boltzmann brain or you are not and you are really here. Who knows, maybe you are a pink giant elephant, hopping around on the moon, imagining the world around you as it is. Why not believe in that?

      I see the Epicurean paradox as another a tool to unveil the unverifiable nature of christian fairy-tales. As if that were still necessary.