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  • wampustoCanadaFar More Women than Men Voted for Carney. Why?
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    I don’t get why you’re asking a question, when you have a general answer in the body of your post.

    far-right populist parties increasingly draw male support through nationalist, anti-immigration and anti-feminist narratives, while women — especially racialized and university-educated — opt for progressive parties promoting equality and social protection.

    So one party is targeting (racialized) minority groups, and promoting feminist-style equality (equality in ways that benefit minorities and women, but not targeting areas where men are worse off), and social protections that are historically skewed in favour of women / minority groups. The government screening for “people who identify as an Equity Employment group” is in line with left leaning policies, where Canada defines “Equity Employment groups” as “any non-male, or non-caucasian, person”. Programs/initiatives that provide funding / increased access to women, are arguably “anti” men, especially when experienced on an individual level (being denied a job because you’re a guy, even if on aggregate it’s for some ‘equity’ balancing, still feels like you’ve been discriminated against because of your gender).

    Feminist theory doesn’t hide its intentions, but people don’t bother to think about how men perceive it in ‘late stage’ feminist cultures (where the imbalance is far less extreme than other areas of the world). Feminism is NOT egalitarian at its core. It’s defined (a bit loosely) as the advocacy of women’s rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes. That means they are not advocating for equality in areas where women are advantaged, nor in places to gain equity for men – theories about making groups “actually” equal, would be egalitarian, not feminist. Think of it like a list where you’ve defined the advantages and disadvantages of both men and women, but then there’s a giant social movement to remove the disadvantages from just one side of the list… it gets lopsided real quick, and unsurprisingly the group that’s been ignored gets pissed off and starts pushing back. We constantly hear about the wage gap, or health care deficiencies for women… but we ignore that women live 5 years longer on average (so better ‘results’ at a high level for health care, and longer time in retirement on CPP/OAS) – they get ~25% more time in their retirement years, which in addition to old age supports, translates to far higher medical costs for that period as old people eat more resources. Even something like increased supports for seniors, a “general” social support program, disproportionately benefits women because of this underlying inequity that’s ignored. We ignore men’s poor showing in higher education, which forecasts their earning potential in decades to come – they’re now double digits behind women in terms of getting degrees. The govt funds womens centers with Fent task force money, cause 1 in 5 deaths from fent are women… the 4 in 5 deaths that are guys are just… whateva, let em die. We celebrate all woman companies, they get special features in newspapers and tons of public support; companies that are men-only are just waiting to be sued. We allow women only spaces like women’s gyms, male exclusive clubs are generally not allowed / torn down by lawsuits (if they grow beyond a facebook group or whatever): I’ve seen local barbers taken to human rights tribunals, men can’t even have ‘men’ only haircut spots.

    Discussion of trans rights, are almost entirely couched in protecting women’s rights – preserving their gender-based privileges in a world where men can “identify” to gain those privileges. Its likely partly why they push hard for a clear definition of what a woman is, so that they can continue to exclude men from those privileges. It’s super rare to see cases where someone’s in an uproar about a FTM trans person playing a sport (I haven’t seen any of these, personally). I’d posit that the lack of defined privilege programs supporting men is one reason FTM doesn’t raise as many concerns. That even goes beyond just trans concerns somewhat, in that on job applications, if checking “female” means you pass a quota check, why wouldn’t every man identify as woman (or as “gender fluid”) for gaining employment? It’s not like work’s gonna force you to fuck in the employee lounge to prove it. People like Rowling are basically feminists working to preserve women’s privileges, which is at odds with a chunk of trans folks who want to gain those privileges by ‘opting in’. The fear is basically that men will realise there’s no reason not to opt in unless there are very clear barriers put in play, which if not planned for could eliminate a chunk of women’s privileges.

    Anyhow, to rephrase what you said a bit:

    One party is about providing programs and benefits to women and minorities. That party isn’t really about providing anything for men; it may benefit them in general with its policies, but those policies are “for everyone”, while they specifically target additional beneficial policies to “anyone but men”. The other party said they’d remove the programs that target women and minorities with benefits, which indirectly benefits men/the majority race. The party that aligns more to men’s general ‘needs’ got more of the male vote. The party that aligns more to women’s general ‘needs’ got more of the female vote.

    Really not all that surprising.


  • Left-leaning policies, parties and politicians have typically aimed to appeal to demographic niches, rather than broadly stated goals that benefit larger subsets of the voting population. Someone like Jenny Kwan, an NDP MP that’s been in her seat for decades now and serves as a ‘minority rights’ type critic, is basically unable to empathize with / represent “average white middle class” voters interests, and it really shows in any communication you have with her. Her political support is almost explicitly rooted in appealing to minority groups, and saying “You have it so much worse than white people, so govt should help you out!”, which gains her enough appeal amongst her various niche sub groups to continue to control the riding (even though her riding has gotten jack shit in terms of fed funding for her entire tenure – they just keep voting against their own interests really).

    Because their base has become so entrenched in demographic politics / appealing to racialized groups, any platform that attempts to speak more broadly / appeal to non-racialized groups, presents a potential threat to their underlying base of supporters. Jagmeet, when doing “meet and greets” with the public, instantly and almost exclusively gravitated towards other sikhs – because his support in the party was largely based on his appeal to that particular minority group, who voted en masse for him because he’s Sikh, moreso than his policies/electability.

    Put slightly differently, they don’t target “traditional” left leaning economic / political ideologies, because their position in the ‘new’ left is based on appeal to influential minority groups. You don’t need to appeal to “everyone”, or “as many people as possible”, if you can lock down a big minority group, who’ll vote for you just because of your race. So you don’t see them appealing to the broader public interest. And while that approach works in some segments (Like Jenny’s riding, or at NDP conventions), it generally isn’t a winning strategy when replicated across the broader voting public. Jagmeet could win his NDP leadership race, because the people voting there skewed heavily into his niche, but he couldn’t win the more ‘open’ race, because his race-based supporters weren’t a significant enough slice of the broader population to carry it. Even more, the racial-based support block actually serves to alienate voters of other races – you can’t have a bunch of Sikh people goin “Finally one of us is gettin in, we’re gonna see good changes!” without that reading as “We’re voting for our own race because we assume there will be race-based benefits / targeted programs to help us as a result! We’re voting for racism in our favour!”.

    And that fear is somewhat justified, unfortunately. I mean, JWR was our first FN AG. She reformed bail to specifically address FN representation in prisons, and is the person responsible for Canada moving to a rotating door for criminals – she literally revised bail to make it so that LE had to let everyone out asap before their official day in court, because she felt some demographics were over-represented in prison. She also mandated race-based reviews of cases, which has resulted in things like a FN dude who stabbed a white stranger in an elevator, killing him… getting zero jail time as a result, because he was FN and his victim a white guy (happened in Vancouver in 2020). These are moves that are explicitly “bad” for the general public, and arguably bad for equity; a FN AG put in policies benefiting her race explicitly to the disadvantage of everyone else / ‘the public at large’. Canada also had Harjit Sajjan from the Liberals, use Canadian spec ops to save non-Canadian Sikhs during the pull out from Kabul – a fairly clear case where he racially discriminated in favour of his own race, to which the Liberal gov said “He’s not racist, cause you wouldn’t call him racist if he wasn’t a Sikh himself!”. Like no shit, someone of a certain race using govt resources to benefit their own race is what people call racist… but not in Left-leaning politician speak. In left leaning politics, it’s ok for minorities to use govt resources that way.

    I dunno. I think left leaning parties / politicians have decades of this sort of stuff to try and work through, if they’re seriously wanting to try and appeal to the broader “working class”. And the political base of the party is not really interested in moving in that direction. Sorta like how the dems in the states were so hard up for getting a woman on the ticket, that they torpedo’d Bernie and alienated a crapload of working class voters. Same general vibe.


  • Yeah… though to be fair, even more ‘typically’ Canadian companies rely heavily on American / foreign supply chains, which in the eyes of some may also be considered deceptive.

    Like almost every “local Canadian Credit Union” has their online banking hosted by Intellect Design, an India based multinational company. A ton of them have their back office entirely in M365. A large number use American banking systems such as FISERV – there’s like, only 1-3 tiny CUs in BC that use a Canadian back-end banking system, another 4-5 in Ontario. Yet they generally all advertise as Canadian businesses, because they’re Canadian owned (by their members), Canada “incorporated/operated” (business lic in Canada, physically operating exclusively in Canada), and are subject to Canadian regulations (which allow/encourage them to outsource to other countries). They’re unable to function without America/foreign involvement, paying/supporting foreign companies on the regular, and are exposed to potential disruption risks should trade deteriorate (eg. USA impeding digital service to Canada, equates to them “turning off” any company reliant on those services…).

    In regards to what counts as supporting a kind of patriotic Canadian consumer movement, where the line gets drawn is entirely up to the consumer. If they don’t want to bother looking too closely, they may be fine with just the ‘store employees’ being Canadian. If they want to dig deeper, they may want to make sure that the products are generally made in Canada. Deeper still they may check the supply chains / operation items that support the business.

    While I personally disagree with the lightest interpretation of it, ie the “well, our employees are Canadian, good enough!”, I can’t realistically expect people to research every product/service they may buy. Macroscopic alterations like that are best done through govt actions, sorta like forcing people to recycle. Our govt hasn’t really taken any tangible action on this front as of yet, just pageantry and bluster for them to get re-elected. And it’s unlikely that it’ll become a political wedge issue in the long-run.


  • I admit, I view the over the top Nazi / “politically incorrect” actions as essentially showing off that regular ‘rules’ and norms don’t apply to a certain ‘class’ of people, namely the rich. Once you’re rich enough, you can openly accept gold-clad jets as bribes, and no one in the USA, or other countries, will stop you.

    Commoners can’t even make a slightly inappropriate comment on sites like Reddit without getting banned. Left leaning government officials are losing careers over the mere accusation that they may’ve done something inappropriate towards a minority / women. Places like Canada and the UK, have online hate speech laws that make certain discussions / opinions, expressed online, potential criminal acts punishable by jail time.

    Then you have people like Ye, overtly praising hitler. You have Elon Musk, doing Nazi salutes and supporting fascist right-wing movements. And they do these things with general immunity from legal / govt repercussions. Because they’re so rich, they don’t have to worry about things like going to jail for being fans of hitler / fascist movements – that’s a poor person problem.


  • Programs like OAS are given to the rich, because they’re old. Questioning the legitimacy of ‘old’ and/or ‘married’ as being qualifiers for targeted aid, and instead implying that benefits should be given to ‘poor people’ no matter their age or marital status as per the charter’s tenants, fits with your rebuttal. A rebuttal which didn’t address the questions.


  • Silly question, but can someone explain how things like OAS and other ‘age’ defined benefits fit with the Charter’s protection against discrimination due to age? Likewise tax benefits given to married folks, as the charter supposedly protects against discrimination there?

    I mean, it’s listed as a protected characteristic just like race. So wouldn’t something like saying “Let’s give old retired people a bunch of money” be similar in terms of violated charter rights, as saying “Let’s give white people a bunch of money”? ie… wrong and against supposedly ‘protected’ charter rights? Even how CPP tiers the amounts you get depending on if you take it at 60, 65, or 70 seems like it’d run counter to charter rights… ?

    *just an edit to clarify protection against discrimination based on marital status is seemingly in the human rights act, not charter, but still a protected area…


  • Yeah, it all seems really wobbly. Like one of their notes related to using public lands for building initiatives, though it wasn’t clear if that just means … like selling off the parks in Vancouver to developers, or government-subsidized planned neighbourhoods around smaller towns to try and spread our population out (praying that jobs would somehow follow), or what.

    I admit, if I could find a way to move to a more remote location, that still had necessities like medical services, and I’d get a functional, easy to maintain, eco friendly / eco resilient type of detached property, I’d be interested… the costs on that sort of thing are really quite high though. And shaving like $50k off the top of that cost isn’t really gonna do much to help with affordability, when you’re talking about housing costing millions.


  • Well, the liberal plan is already including a chunk of red tape removal – the criticism is more about having a large public institution overtly shifting market trends, especially as the intention appears to have it be both lender, and builder. They’re right to note that there’s potential conflicts, and that govt programs typically aren’t about ‘efficiency’ in terms of service delivery.

    My napkin math is terrible, and the different amounts noted for different programs is a bit unclear to me in terms of what amounts the govt intends to invest directly by building housing vs how much its just going to try and subsidize builders.



  • The Ontario auto sector folks are milking this a ton, and our Govt seems to not be registering what they’re explicitly saying – and are eating it up. The govt is busy putting tariffs on the viable EVs of today because the Auto industry floated a piece of total vapourware, that they openly admit even in this article is not a prototype for production, but rather a “platform” to show off the sub-component manufacturers and what they can do.

    You can’t put any weight in the $35k 2029 type claims, as there’s no intention to make this car from any manufacturer / business / the project leads. They aren’t even trying to sell the whole car, but just the individual bits that go into it, in business to business interactions – not business to consumer. If there were an actual business case that showed you could mass produce these cars in Canada at a profit, it’d get picked up and done. But it’s not.

    This project being used to get our govt to block things like BYD, is looking more and more like how Musk used a vapour project like Hyperloop to derail high speed mass transit options in the USA, which would’ve competed with Tesla for eco friendly transport options. Using the Arrow, the niche auto manufacturer companies in Ontario, who are all intimately tied to US company interests, is able to block non-US companies from competing fairly in Canada’s market.



  • wampustoNews@lemmy.world*Permanently Deleted*
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    When the Nazi’s came to power in Germany, they had less support amongst the public than the republicans do today.

    If you think it fair to hold all of Nazi germany accountable for the atrocities that went on, there’s no reason to pretend America is some “special” exception. Germans take responsibility for their past, with things like banning AFD – even if a German can legit say “It wasn’t me gassing those jews”, they still recognise they were responsible for what occurred as a result of their inaction and apathy. In the US, like 30% of them didn’t even bother to show up and vote. Apathy is no excuse, and not worthy of absolution. They literally elected a felon and a rapist.

    Regardless, I still stick by the reduction in visits and the on going boycotts aren’t about making them “realise our value” or whatever. It’s a visceral recoil experienced on an aggregate scale, to the vitriolic bile being spewed by the people they elected, targeted quite literally at all of us here in Canada. If someone vomits on you constantly, you move the fuck away – and it isn’t about “wanting to make them miss you”. It’s about the vomit.


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    I agree with a chunk of this, but your note about ‘reminding them at large of our value’ is off. Most people I talk to here in Canada look at the issues in the states as basically untenable in terms of stability / trade / geopolitical unity. Supporting Russia, attacking their allies/threatening to militarily annex peaceful democratic areas like greenland, putting up BS reasons for trade tariffs (fent). The USA is a schizo trade partner at best, where for 4 years with the dems it may be ‘normal’, but when it flips repub its suddenly xenophobic dictator land, with less stability in its agreements than a third world military dictatorship – at least those deals tend to last until the next coup, whereas Trumps agreements change based on his dementia; his administration has become comfortable with making up totally fake numbers even, which can change based on how they want to present the fake narrative about why they’re doing whatever stupid crap they’re doing. And there’s no assurance it’ll go back to a ‘stable’ dem setup for four years next time around – the way it’s trending, the dems will be locked up, with all their funding methods declared unamerican by EO, similar to the shakedown of the law firms that’s happened recently as reported by 60 minutes.

    If you live next to a family in a mansion, and they suddenly start flying a Nazi flag, beating/deporting their own maintenance staff (sometimes their own family too, by mistake), and screaming about how they’re gonna take your house, you don’t pull back on visiting as a way to ‘remind them’ of your value. You pull back because WTF, no. And if you can’t move, and they were your main contact locally, you start lookin for other friends / buying guns and protection. Again, not to remind them of your value, but because fuck no.



  • heh, your edits are kinda hilarious when you note that the position you’ve ‘agreed’ with has just ~15 upvotes, while the two noting its a ‘dangerous by default’ thing each have like 50 or 100 upvotes. Men gave you their perspective, and you choose to ignore it. Most guys agree on what that sort of behaviour typically is – and even if it is the left over covid habit, that’s still a “this person is wearing a mask and likely wants to stay distant from others, I should walk in the mud because they’ll think I’m a threat if I get too close”… is still in the ball park of walkin in the mud cause he wants to show he’s not a threat.

    A large number of men have internalised all the negativity expressed in the media about our gender over the last few decades. Lots of the ones who’ve resisted / refused to do so, have gone the extreme right / alpha male BS route, trying to aggressively push back against it in a rather sad way. I reckon its partially because progressive / left leaning approaches don’t typically allow for any dissenting voices on things like gender, and are heavily influenced by feminist ideology: masculine sexuality and traits are the enemy. Caucasian males in specific, is one demographic that’s always pretty safe to dunk on in pretty well any scenario.

    I’d phrase it a bit differently though, I think, in that its more risk avoidance than threat internalization – even if one follows the other. Like I know guys who get anxiety if they’re asked to work a shift with just one other coworker (female) on site - I’ve had the same concerns personally. It’s not because we think we’ll slip up and accidentally assault the woman or something. It’s that we’re worried we’ll say something / do something that the woman will take offense to, there’ll be no witnesses to support our side, and the standard of today is “believe the victim (if its not a male victim)”. Avoiding being in that situation/getting anxiety over it, isn’t an internalization of being a threat, so much as it’s wanting to avoid the potential risk of something that’s shown in many media circles constantly.

    Nodding hello and saying good morning / afternoon is something I reserve typically for older men, usually white or asian. Any other demographic tends to net a negative response more often than naught. Like imagine if every other person you said “hello” to quickened their pace to get away from you or shot you nasty looks – you’d prolly stop doin it too. I’ve even had X’s who said they thought that behaviour was an attempt to ‘pick them up’, which I definitely don’t want to mis-convey. I still say it back if someone says it to me, but I can’t initiate without it re-enforcing a negative male stereotype. That pleasantry was killed off like a decade or more ago, in part because the onus to maintain it shifted away from men… and women didn’t really want to take the step to keep it goin. I mean, you didn’t exactly say “g’mornin” to the mud walker guy to let him know it’s all good, did you? ;p



  • While I think they should decouple from Microsoft / US tech giants, I don’t think there’s a realistic hope in hell of it happening. This is why they have that ‘easily or affordably’ caveat in the announcement. They say they’ll leave it to govt agencies to figure out if its easy / affordable to do.

    So somewhere like BC’s Financial Services Authority (the gov agency that oversees provincial credit unions, realtors, insurance companies), which stuck all of their stuff into Microsoft’s Cloud, and retains a skeleton crew in terms of IT support staff (part of their public RFP for sticking things in the cloud, was admitting that fact)… will simply say it’s too difficult and/or costly to decouple from their perspective. And they’ll leave all that government regulatory stuff exposed to the US and the risk of services being cut off summarily as part of trade deterioration / extortion. It’s grimly entertaining to acknowledge that our own government regulators are so dependant on the USA’s services, that they can’t function without them: it lends credence to the crap Trump says, frankly. He could practically ‘turn off’ our financial regulators by forcing Microsoft to deny service.

    I’m pretty confident the government isn’t “that” serious about any of this stuff. I’ve written to both my provincial and federal reps asking specifically about whether Microsoft / Tech-giant type subscriptions would be on the cutting board, and none of them want to commit to anything. They’ll openly rip up any Elon contract though, because those are in fashion / a more obvious supporter of the stuff goin on down south – and its a lot simpler to ‘not build’ something, than it is to alter existing stuff.


  • They have direct access/experience with Liberals making promises for election campaigns, and then doing whatever they want once in power. They have direct experience with a Liberal government causing housing prices to skyrocket at rates previously unseen – the Liberals have literally presided over a period of Canada’s history that utterly destroyed the dreams of many younger folks. They also have access to historical information highlighting how much easier it was for older generations, older generations who have voted consistently to ‘pull the ladder up’ from the next generation. And, most importantly I think, most people aren’t fussed with researching years and years of history before voting.

    And the disparity on fronts like housing has grown to a point where lots of younger people are basically saying “We’d rather watch it all burn, so you old people feel the same hopelessness as us”. And again, I can’t fault them for it.

    It’s not so much about “pro pierre”, as it is “pro change”. Carney hopefully will do things ‘differently’, but doing stuff like axing carbon taxes and removing environmental reviews from projects, isn’t exactly a “hopeful future” for younger people who are watching things like Jasper and Lytton burn to the ground due to climate change. Carney is essentially an ‘older’ generation of Conservative, who was parachuted into the Liberal leadership because they feel like the Cons move right gives them an opportunity to move ‘right’ to garner more of the disenfranchised conservative voters, while the fear of a hard-right wing movement will keep their left-leaning supporters in line. It’s a gamble that’ll likely pay off, but it’s not one that carries a whole lot of ‘hope’ given the circumstances. There’s a reason more ‘active’ forms of left wing principles, like what you see AOC and Bernie touring on, have more appeal to the younger demo.


  • Fairly sure the younger cohort is deciding largely based on the past performance of the existing government. Justin’s Liberals have been in power since 2015 – for many 18-28 year olds, the Liberal government is the only party they’ve known / seen. And in that time, have things improved on the housing front?

    Or did the government start off campaigning on it as an issue, but then when the issue spiked due to other Liberal policies (mass influx of immigrants post COVID), did they attempt to claim it wasn’t a federal government responsibility? And they then flip flopped on that again, and re-assigned the guy they had in charge of the mass, chaotic influx of immigrants to be in charge of figuring out housing (Miller). A decade of promising advances on that file, and a decade of it getting exponentially worse. And it is exponentially worse, you just have to google charts on housing prices / historical trends to see it, there’ve been tons of articles in the news over the years screaming about it to the ears of deaf politicians. The party swapping leaders last second isn’t going to erase that history, one that was supported by the party at large.

    For example, the CMHC has a chart of averages/medians for the vancouver region here: https://www03.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/hmip-pimh/en/TableMapChart/Table?TableId=1.10.1&GeographyId=2410&GeographyTypeId=3&DisplayAs=Table&GeograghyName=Vancouver . From 1990 to 2000, the median went from 280k to 360k – about 30% over 10 years, roughly 3% per year. Even back then it was considered a good move to buy/invest in housing due to the appreciation in value beating inflation targets. From 2015 to 2022 (the end of the tables data), it went from 1.09m to 2.06m – about 89% in 8 years, roughly 11% per year. And that includes years where the COVID immigration disruption “briefly” flattened the increase – it was up to 2m in 2018, dropped to 1.6m in 2020, and then shot back up once the flood gates were re-opened. Wages, to the surprise of absolutely no one, can’t keep up with that sort of increase: it’s completely unhinged. From a younger person’s perspective, that’s what the Liberals did.

    That cohort is also young enough that things like Childcare will only apply to a small % of the group. Likewise, likely, for dental coverage – many young people in Uni will get extended coverage from any parental work-coverage, and young people who work will have that potential coverage directly. Dental costs are also less ‘present’ and ubiquitous than housing costs – you gotta pay rent monthly, but you don’t need an annual root canal. Government Dental is a perk more for retired seniors, disabled/long-term unemployed people and middle-aged people who don’t have coverage through work – even the CBC ran stories focusing on the senior demographic for that one (the person highlighted, iirc, was a ~75 year old who’d worked in America most of her life, who is currently still working to pay for her dentures). Hell, even when I was in uni, at least one of my friends, who had coverage, didn’t bother going to the dentist for years cause she just wasn’t fussed. Even as a middle aged person, I’m personally not that fussed with anything the liberals / ndp promise the senior cohort – many millenials are jaded enough at this point, that promises for boomers are viewed as things that will disappear by the time we get old enough to qualify, if we get old enough to qualify given how healthcare/GP access has also deteriorated: I fully expect to die younger than my parents. I can understand why an even younger generation wouldn’t be in favour of putting in social supports for boomers – at this point it isn’t the boomers who are having to pay the taxes, its the boomers voting explicitly to give themselves perks at the expense of younger generations.

    I think Pierre / the cons are a terrible choice, personally. But I can fully understand why the younger folks would be swayed by the idea of change, even if its just smashing things apart like we’re seeing in the States. The last decade has been bleak, and there’s no tangible reason to think that the promises of the party in charge during that decade are worth anything going forward.


  • Yes yes, tactics matter a bit, as does RNG. But it’s still a fairly linear progression line. Like it’s possible to get to the first on-land brain thing fight without hitting level 2. It’s possible to win that fight as a level 1, with just you and shadowheart, technically. But its far far easier if you just play the way they intended, get to level 2 before that fight, and cheese it.

    As noted elsewhere, I haven’t even been interested enough to get to the goblin village. So Halsin, Minsc, Minthara are all people I never bothered to get to. Emo goth cleric girl is feminine, though it feels very niche – like a ‘token’ straight semi-human looking girl. So if you want a ‘traditional’ partner, you’re stuck with emo girl? meh. At least if you play as a girl you have a choice of more human looking partners.

    Wyll I sorta just assumed was gay, cause all the others were already gay for my ugly little gnome – plus you meet him while he’s taking care of children in the camp, and he runs around in light armor/isn’t a ‘physical’ character class. The most physical male in the first bit is asterion, but he is more agility/dex, which are traditionally more female oriented in d&d (I think old editions gave women +1 dex, men +1 str or something along those lines) – and he’s obsessed with sucking my gnome.

    In a broader sense though, its the assertiveness of the different characters that I think causes the impression on my side. All of the women are pretty direct / blunt / to the point about ‘most’ topics (outside of story elements like shadowhearts whatsit); the men are sorta coy and demure.

    There’s a whole lot more they could’ve done in that space, but they left it essentially the same as previous games – while I get that it’s well executed, I don’t think of it as having more ‘depth’ in this area than anything previous. So I find it boring / unmotivating.