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Cake day: Sep 13, 2021


The thing is that sooner or later we will be forced into such a system.

I disagree.

Remember, they forced the injection on us, but not everyone took it.

Some see through the evil, and say no.

Eventually the herd will follow those with more courage .

Digital identity systems may be forced upon you, but there’s hope. You can still live free.

Easydns are respected in the industry.

They also have a pro freedom CEO, and used to send out news letters covering intl privacy issues in tech.

What traffic did you get there ? Why dedicated, when most use VPS for lemmy ?

Or you may try odysee.com there’s no age restrictions, and many creators are moving there.

bonus: they don’t censor free speech like youtube

I was about to set up my family on matrix, but XMPP is way easier. Especially if you wanna self host.

I don’t work a job yet, and I’m new to server administration

The latter can help you acheive the former.

Get a cheap VPS under 3 usd /month. There’s a few lemmy install guides out there for newbies

Web3 is more a proof of concept at the moment. But the technology is potentially ready and already in use.

Many people are discarding web3 as a buzzword, because the so called distributed web3 projects are not YET entirely decentralized.

But I would pay close attention to this space. Anytime soon there will be an epic dapp that will emerge…

Did you know it is now possible to build an entirely decentralized exchange?

No central web server, no central hosting, no central DNS, all trades and liquidity creation happen on smart contracts.

Those who have never traded may underestimate the impact of such use cases… this of course can go far beyond crypto trading.

DNS is majorly flawed.

Web3 will bring better systems. We’re already seeing decentralized file storage economies. Next will be distributed dns.

Handshake seems promising.


Network topology

SimpleX is a decentralized client-server network that uses redundant, disposable nodes to asynchronously pass the messages via message queues, providing receiver and sender anonymity.

Unlike P2P networks, all messages are passed through one or several (for redundancy) servers, that do not even need to have persistence (in fact, the current SMP server implementation uses in-memory message storage, persisting only the queue records) - it provides better metadata protection than P2P designs, as no global participant ID is required, and avoids many problems of P2P networks.

Unlike federated networks, the participating server nodes do NOT have records of the users, do NOT communicate with each other, do NOT store messages after they are delivered to the recipients, and there is no way to discover the full list of participating servers - it avoids the problem of metadata visibility that federated networks suffer from and better protects the network, as servers do not communicate with each other. Each server node provides unidirectional “dumb pipes” to the users, that do authorization without authentication, having no knowledge of the the users or their contacts. Each queue is assigned two RSA keys - one for receiver and one for sender - and each queue access is authorized with a signature created using a respective key’s private counterpart.

The routing of messages relies on the knowledge of client devices how user contacts and groups map at any given moment of time to these disposable queues on server nodes.

This is like corruption money. The large monopolies pay ‘fines’, while keeping their monopolies.

Meanwhile, any successful startups can’t compete with these monopolies. They must pay the full tax rates, and eventually get bought out by the monopolies.

same. I feel that YT try their hardest to disempower their users.

Other video sites empower users, and are using far more advanced technology stacks.

I’m spending less and less time on this video site.

Lots of great alternatives, that are open and promote community building, instead of censorship.

Very promising. Tho making a standalone search engine is a hard one, even more so so with web3…

Right now presearch relies mostly on googles results.

True, but watch this space.

Odysee has grown 300 percent in the last 6 months - standing at 30 million montly view right now.

on the left = current web2 systems

on the right = future web3 disruptors

Nextcloud and dropbox are both web2 insofar as they can only run on someone’s server. IPFS has the potential to provide layer 2 solutions that completely decentralize file storage and empower users (data no longer belongs to whoever owns the server).

I would like to thank the good people of Lemmy here, who helped me avoid the logistical nightmare of setting up a matrix server, and instead choose xmpp. It’s been so fun and easy to get my family on my xmpp server using Conversations/blabber app. Resource usage is minimal, and it works very easily.

Very good break-down.

Besides the meta-data leaking, I would always use xmpp Conversations app over anything else. I don’t find it too outdated UI wise, but I’m no expert in this area. It does feel intuitive - somewhat like watsapp. But the blabber fork does a sligthly better job in UI

Video, voice , files - all e2e ecrypted now on conversations (xmpp) using OMEO

Works well

Conversations is indeed a far better alternative here…

  • It uses a very popular protocol, xmpp
  • works with e2e encryption for text, files, video, audio,
  • it can be self hosted,
  • it’s fully open source, and has a couple of popular forks (like blabber)
  • devs got no funding from intelligence agencies (like matrix has)
  • it’s highly efficient (unlike matrix) and runs on the cheapest of vps servers / raspberry pi

Tried audius. Looks alright. Price/token wise, it’s clearly over-hyped and over-priced.

That said, I love finding new web3 alternatives to those apps of yester-year…

Soundcloud - Audius
Google search - Presearch
Dropbox - IPFS/filecoin
Youtube - Lbry/Odysee or Dtube
… the list goes on

Presearch is what I’m using. Web3 search engine.

Why not just use peer tube behind a free decentralized vpn like sentinel or mysterium


Just setup a self hosted server. My family are now all chatting on it. Works great and simple to use.

Matrix is an overhead mess, from what people have advised me. Avoid.

Qwant doesn’t accept my IP. I hear from many users that it’s blocked in their location. When I was able to use it a couple of years back, the search results were poor. Especially on long tail keywords.

I’m now using Presearch, which is private and Web3. Works awesome, even better than Google.

Ended up taking your advice, and installed prosody with conversatoins/blabber/chatsecure clients. Works great & tiny resource usage!

Only issue is setting up voice/video calling. Apparently i need to setup and stun and turn server.

Yes. Prosody/conversations video + calling works on my wifi & also on wifi to mobile1. But does not work for ‘mobile1’ to ‘mobile2’ data.

I’m having the same calls issue with Prosody server. It’s because of NAT routers on mobile networks. Apparently need to setup a stun and turn server

“too much choice” issues XMPP has

My one prosody server has 3 different type of clients (including iOS and android), all sending fully end to end encrypted text, video, audio to each-other. Works very well.

In my opinion the “too much choice” is not an issue with XMPP. The lack of usage issue is most likely users opting for convenience while sacrificing privacy. Most people avoid investing the time it takes to figure out XMPP, even if just using a client on a preexisting server.

I even saw that my server can talk to other XMPP servers. So technically, my family could receive messages from other users on different servers.

The thing about Snikket is, just like matrix, they get funding from shady sources.

This is exactly the conclusion I came to from reading your comments here and researching some more. I dropped matrix, and chose to go ahead with XMPP. Works great & very little overhead, even on the cheapest of servers.

Thank you. I ended up doing this.

However snikket has some shady funding.

I went for prosody server and set my family up on conversations, blabber, and chatsecure clients. Works great for sending text, pics, videos, voice clips, and e2e encrypted.

As a linux beginner, it was prety easy to setup (provided you have the time). Only issue is with voice/video calls. They use p2p instead of going thru sever, so can’t connect well especially on mobile networks behind NAT. Apparently I need to setup up a stun & turn sever.

Mainstream media, attacking innovators. Character assasination is what they do best.

Brave is a step forward. I have my thoughts on the founder. Tho those are separate from the products long term viability & potential.

Mozilla now is trying to sabotage web3 decentralized identy. Google is now massively censoring information, and discussion. We can’t trust the old browser duopoly to act in our best interests.

Checked out Mojeek: no tracking, their own crawling algo & spiders --> awesome! BUT the Mojeek user base is tiny right now. I tried long tail searching on Mojeek … it highly underperforms in quality compared to G search.

Have you tried Presearch ? Pretty cool & private alternative to G.

It’s alright to believe such. However look at how many people are being injured and dying from the vaccine. Just this fb post got swamped with desperate comments https://www.worldtribune.com/unexpected-and-heartbreaking-thousands-flood-abc-affiliates-facebook-page-with-vaccination-horror-stories/

You’re correct. VPS on digital ocean.

You’ve really motivated me that i can do it ! I’m at basics amof linux commands and ssh. But could be fun learning the docker basics and ansible

That’s amazing. XMPP seems like the way to go.

The only disadvantage to it is that it’s not federated like Matrix, right ?

Appreciate your alternative here.

Why is Matrix so resource intensive compared to XMPP ?

Thanks for this. I’m gonna read up on the ansible deploy. Most likely for a digital ocean droplet.

Is self hosting a matrix instance worth the effort ?
I want to setup a matrix instance to help increase friends and family's privacy. Is there much value in creating my own instance? I'm a beginner to linux and coding, but am good at following the steps on a video tutorial. Alternatively i could get everyone to sign up on a preexisting instance + download the element app. Thanks for sharing your opinions !