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Cake day: Jan 23, 2020


No one considers Pol Pot a communist, but go hard at revealing your obviously propagandized mind.

Because this place is based and people here can read. Illiteracy is the best weapon of anti-communists because if people can’t read, they often can’t educate themselves that communism is the obviously better system.

lol, blaming tankies for this is hilarious.

Are you like 12 years old? You definitely act like it.

Ok, you’re still just one anecdotal source and therefore it proves nothing.

Even if it did, none of this proves the original OP’s claims that it is Xi’s dictatorial powers that caused it.

It also wouldn’t prove it’s true throughout the entire country.

But feel free to keep jacking yourself off over having some anecdotal claims and expecting anyone to take it as if it’s reliable information to extrapolate throughout the country.

Yeah, I think you’re right here, and I’ll make recommendations accordingly in the future.

To be clear, I mean no offense here, but I have no clue who you are nor any reason to trust your anecdotal experience. You might full well be telling me the truth, but it hardly qualifies as evidence sufficient for the claims being made.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, though, you must understand that we are so heavily propagandized here in the West, that literally nothing we hear about the anti-imperialist parts of the world is trustworthy. Unless it’s good. We can be pretty confident that anything they say about China that’s good is true, but any responsible analysis of the Western media requires a close eye.

As the thread elsewhere stated, we still don’t even have a problem with the works being mandatory, but the fact is that the sources provided simply do not remotely prove the claims. Especially the “dictatorial power” nonsense that’s just patently untrue. That’s not how the CPC works. It wasn’t how the CCCP worked in the USSR either, and the West always claimed the USSR worked with “dictatorial power.”

Admittedly, Stalin had additional powers during WW2, but in order to defeat the Nazis, that seemed like a necessary and justifiable step. FDR also had additional powers during WW2, and he trampled all over the rights of innocent Japanese people living in the US, for example, putting them in concentration camps by another name, internment camps.

Personally, I’d love to have a book from the owners of JPMorgan Chase and such that explained what they’re trying to do with the current rendition of capitalism. I bet it would be hilariously contradictory. At least in socialism people can set reliable plans in motion that persist and don’t wander every 4 years from one calamity into another.

For sure, I honestly wouldn’t care, but showcasing that there aren’t reliable sources making these claims helps to dispell the Western myths about AES.

Imagine if I complained every time my Western education forced me to read some stupid propaganda. It’d be a lot more problematic than something like The Governance of China by Xi Jinping.

Stuff like 1984 and Animal Farm, literal garbage written by George Orwell, the traitor so dumb that he effectively spied for British intelligence. Nonsense like “States’ Rights” as an explanation for the US Civil War.

Cool, so this supports that it’s being integrated into the curriculum, but I’m not seeing any mention that it’s mandatory. Thanks for adding that source, though, it definitely illuminates some detail.

So do you have any on it being “mandatory” and “his dictatorial powers” or were those assumptions you made?

If, for example, I integrate a chemistry book into the chemistry curriculum, it’s only “mandatory” if it’s a required class and only for the category of people for which that class is required. So if this is being integrated into college Marxism courses, it’s only mandatory for people who are required to take those Marxism courses.

That might be everyone - I’m not saying it definitely isn’t, but just because it’s integrated into the curriculum does not provide evidence that it’s mandatory.

They are absolutely an attempt at socialism. To be clear, no one is saying criticism is unacceptable. To deny them as being socialist is just dogmatic. They’re no more authoritarian than any Western country anyway.

Sure. I’ll edit the original and list them here, too:

  • Capital by Karl Marx
  • On Authority by Friedrich Engels
  • Principles of Communism by Friedrich Engels
  • Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State by Friedrich Engels
  • Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti
  • State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin
  • What is to be Done by Vladimir Lenin

Source on him using his supposed “dictatorial powers” to suppress and censor this meme?

Source on it being compulsory education?

Incredulous claims require sources to be taken seriously.

Probably because calling Xi Jinping a tyrant is entirely un-Marxist. And I assume this is at least a Anarchocommunist community that agrees in some part with marxism and not some bourgeois ancap subreddit.

You’re obviously allowed to critique anyone you want, but calling him a tyrant is just laughably dogmatic. For all its flaws, the CPC’s leadership over the State does not operate that way.

Depends on who we’re talking to. For Anarchists, On Authority by Friedrich Engels since it provides a useful argument in favor of less decentralization. The principles of decentralization and anarchism are good, but I’d argue that dogmatically pursuing only decentralization isn’t necessarily productive. State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin is another good one in this case.

For propagandized Western anti-communists, Principles of Communism by Friedrich Engels is useful since it shatters many of the myths and more generally describes communism.

For baby leftists: State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin, What is to be Done by Vladimir Lenin, etc.

For burgeoning leftists, Capital by Karl Marx, “Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State,” by Friedrich Engels etc.

Edit: Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti is excellent for all leftists and Anarchists as well since it does such a good job of setting the historical and materialist context to previous and current attempts at socialism.

Haha some desktop background I saw on here.

It’s Kim Jong Un on a cool looking industrial platform mounted to a hydraulic extender inspecting a reanimated Lenin with a reanimated Karl Marx in the background. The reference is to Juche necromancy, which is used as an internet meme for all the people in the DPRK who are claimed to have been murdered but then they turn up fine. The joke is that they’re being reanimated by juche necromancy.

Yes, always. Shoplifting from anything but a good worker-owned enterprise is entirely supportable assuming it’s not just like a mom and pop with zero employees other than the mom and pop.

The entire existence of capitalism is tightly coupled with mass worker exploitation through the theft of the surplus value generated by workers.

Edit: I don’t even care if they aren’t in poverty, I still support them, especially from trash like Target.

Slavery is a systemic problem and there aren’t individualistic solutions to these types of problems. You either seek to overthrow capitalism and build socialism, or you’re complicit in modern slavery. No one is complicit in modern slavery for buying the things they need, bargain or otherwise, to survive and have a pleasant existence.

The system which enables people to directly exploit others in order to extract surplus value, whether by slavery or wage labor, is the problem, not the individuals compelled to participate.

No one with a brain thinks that anarchists are ops, but rather that the hyper-online anarchists who overwhelmingly spend their time criticizing AES are benefiting imperialists by both undermining existing attempts and failing to build their own. For any anarchists reading this, if you are one of the people out there building organizations, you are not in the center of the venn diagram of people who subscribe to anarchism and people who are exclusively contributing criticism against AES.

When I’m not doing it to liberate workers from the toil of redundant automation without undermining their acquisition of the means of subsistence. So always.

Yeah, I don’t really disagree with your overall point. I was just nitpicking at the idea that we could get a bunch of people together to unite under a shared hatred of capitalism. IMO unity will come and go, and we need to just keep spending our time organizing locally according to the material conditions surrounding us.

Hatred of capitalism by itself doesn’t get you anywhere, though. Without a careful study of history and materialism, it’s not obvious that communism is the counter-force to overcome bourgeois democracy. And without overcoming bourgeois democracy, you get tepid ineffective social democracy or “democratic socialism” which isn’t real in that it doesn’t exist outside of a communist-led dictatorship of the proletariat.

Hatred of immigrants, minorities, etc. just encourages you to reinforce the status quo, which can be done by:

A) doing nothing

B) actively supporting Western police and military

C) Jan 6 style insurrections to bring about even more repressive regimes

Ultimately none of these change the underlying system other than to tweak the dial of violence.

Stalin was imperfect and made mistakes, but I agree with Deng that he was 70% right and 30% wrong which is worlds better than any liberal democratic leaders in the entire history of the imperial core.

Ha, the “what year you were born?” question is pretty funny. I think it’s probably accurate that many younger people identify websites as “apps,” but software engineers like myself also sometimes do that. It’s just a change in the vocabulary that probably doesn’t propagate to older folks who aren’t in the industry. Although my uncle is in the industry as well, and I think he, too, would balk at the notion of calling this an “app.”

Everything is political. The notion that you can do things and have them not have political consequences and be politically informed is a total falsehood and illusion.

This app is just honest and upfront about its politics, in contrast to something like Reddit which is “apolitical” which just means the admins explicitly support the status quo.

is in the modern era completely hypothetical.

No, just no. It’s not hypothetical. It’s historical fact that these things happened. You don’t get to hand wave it away because you don’t like it.

Calling that exploitation is rather asinine. Call it violence.

What? It’s both. Slavery was an exploitative system with a higher level of violence than capitalism, but ultimately both rely on immense amounts of violence. After your boss doesn’t pay you your wage, try to get the money for it. Especially if you’re not in the imperial core (US, Europe, etc.) When you can’t, try stealing from his shop to make up the difference and see how the violence of the state immediately comes down hard on you and observe that the violence of the state never came to back you up when your employer stole wages from you.

I believe that at this point your definition for exploitation is circular, and pretty meaningless. It’s exploitation now because it’s always been exploitation before.

Read a book. You’re not educated on this subject, and you sound unintelligible. It is exploitative because the only generation of value comes from the working class. If you were to automate all jobs away such that no worker surplus value could be withdrawn from the system, you end up with a very clear and obvious formula.

The limit as x approaches infinity for the equation of surplus value, referring to the value available in the form of profit to the capitalist, where x is the level of automation is zero. If all the capitalists can produce products with a cost of zero after materials, then (assuming the beloved capitalist competition exists) there will be a race to the bottom on surplus value extraction that ends at roughly zero.

Not only is it “bad” which is a relatively meaningless term in the historical development of economic systems, it’s also inherently unsustainable.

The cyclical nature of the crises of capitalism are directly related to capitalism’s inherent contradictions. They are getting more volatile and more pronounced as the rate of profit continues to fall closer and closer to zero.

As capitalists cut cost by reducing labor hours and wages, fewer people can purchase their goods (on the whole, this does not apply to every industry at every time, but the vast majority of industries are affected in this way.) This cycle leads to mass unemployment every 7-10 years, more or less.

If two parties each have something the other wants, and they agree to the transaction, where is the exploitation?

If a freed slave opts to stay working for their previous master because it’s all the slave knows, this is still exploitation.

This analogy extends to capitalism. If someone who only knows the exploitative relationships between worker and capitalist, and therefore opts to maintain the status quo, it does not change the reality that exploitation is inherent to the relationship.

Improving USAmerikkka wasn’t even the intention anyway. It was just improving the lives of white people, mostly just rich white people, with a few crumbs and a lot of racist thinking handed down to the poor white people.

Capitalism, it was the new hot shit after feudalism, but it just caused colonialism, imperialism, and mass starvation because there has to be an enormous reserve army of labor. It also leads to cyclical economic collapses which impoverish more people at the bottom while enriching people at the top, creating an oligarchy.

Why was it necessary to reference an ableist slur? There are plenty of complaints about Trump that don’t require ableism.

Sure, I’m in favor of user rights, too, but that’s not what this OP was complaining about. I’m barely contributing anything to Dessalines’ patreon, so I’m not about to make any demands about how they do anything. I’m very glad the devs have taken the time they have to do all this great work on lemmy.

It does run on tor, you just have to enable javascript, losing some of the benefits of tor.

Either way, this isn’t the place for putting state secrets that make you fear for your life. There are already better tools for that, and lemmy was never trying to be that.

If you want a lemmy instance that does, make your own.

You’re clearly not a developer, so you don’t understand that what you’re asking is for the lemmy devs to start the frontend over from scratch. Additionally, for most normal users who don’t have your specific needs, JavaScript powered webpages are likely preferable. In a perfect world, there would be both a JS-free and a JS version of the web page to cater to both categories.

We don’t live in that perfect world, sorry. Feel free to dedicate thousands of hours to learning to program and then hundreds or thousands more to implement the feature you want. We’d all appreciate your contribution.

This wasn’t really made to be the safe haven for people who know multiple state secrets and have assassins after them, it’s just a federated link aggregator.

Lmao, right? Well said. There are different tools for different jobs.

Try reading anything but Western propaganda for like five minutes. Blackshirts and Reds isn’t even about China, but if you read it and actually understood it, I think you’d see your takes on China are as ill informed as the uniformly negative takes of the USSR addressed by Michael Parenti in that book.

It’s not that there’s nothing bad ever happening in China, but you’re 100% just regurgitating propaganda which was spoon-fed to you in grade school and by the mainstream media.

Like, take this for example:

If you think they just want to control China (which includes Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc. in their eyes), you’re deluding yourself.

Firstly, Hong Kong and Taiwan are China, so I don’t know what point you’re making. China was colonized by Western powers and Japan, which led to the complicated material conditions in those special administrative regions.

Secondly, what proof do you have that China wants to control anyone else? If it’s the classic “debt trap diplomacy” claim, I recommend you listen to actual African leaders and intellectuals on the subject. There’s a reason that people are adopting Chinese debt in place of IMF and World Bank debt. China isn’t mandating domestic policy, while the IMF and World Bank are mandating domestic policy. It’s so common as to almost be a guarantee for the IMF and World Bank to force austerity onto borrowing countries.

professed communist societies

No one of consequence has ever professed that any existing or previously existing socialist state had achieved a communist society. I recommend you read about communism if you want to understand it, and if you don’t want to understand it, I honestly have no interest in engaging with you further. Anyone who criticizes something without even tacitly understanding it is not worth my time.

You should be asking questions not making assertions.

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