

Luckily, https://lemmy.ca/comment/21667925 above already looked it up and lo and behold, you’re much safer in an electric vehicle.


Luckily, https://lemmy.ca/comment/21667925 above already looked it up and lo and behold, you’re much safer in an electric vehicle.


I think there actually was a higher frequency of this problem with EV vars.
No. I stand by my point there… As far as I know, there has never been any data that pointed in the direction of EVs being anything but a much lower fire hazard than ICEs. If you had other numbers I’d gladly accept those but it seems you don’t do maybe you should just consider that your impression is wrong.
Here in Denmark we have seen completely unheard of failure rates at mandatory safety checks for Tesla model 3
Failure rate for mandatory tests refers to a lot of things, most of which aren’t immediate hazards and all of which don’t refer to the high voltage battery fire probabilities. It’s a terrible sign that tesla fails these, but this has nothing to do with batteries spontaneously igniting.
This has almost seemed like a cover up to me
Dude… It’s just data that hasn’t been prepared in a way you’d like it. That doesn’t mean there’s a conspiracy going on.


The point was that there are relatively more deaths due to battery fires than gas fires
I strongly doubt that this is true. I have never seen any such numbers and EV fires are so rare that I consider any such statement without the numbers to back it up to be baseless fearmongering. That’s not to say that I can’t be convinced otherwise, but please, give me some sources to back that up.
Previous to electric cars, I had never heard about anyone being caught in a car and die because it caught on fire.
Because EVs were new and had a novelty aspect to them (and a lobby against them) and because fires in ICEs are so common they’re usually not reported.


I tried to look them up but wasn’t really successful… For kia, it seems to be the ev6 that might have them but I found owners that said there’s still a physical connection to open the doors without 12v power. I also found some that said they had issues with a deadlock mechanism that was specifically built to disengage door handles as a security measure, which seems weird enough, but not really what we’re talking about. Xpeng is hard because if you search for that one and electric door handles you end up getting a lot of articles that those types of door handles have been completely banned in China but not really anything specific to xpeng.
The point remains though - even if it’s not exclusively a tesla problem, it’s not connected to the propulsion system either. Electric cars don’t lock you in burning cars because they’re electric. On the opposite, the doors being hooked to the 12v system would make them just as available in combustion cars.


many other brands have copied Tesla in the design of fully electronic door handles.
Care to share some examples?
And rock out to old school Duran Duran?
So the Washington Post becomes an imperative that urges people to “stop shit on wang”?


This is nonsense. Not getting out because of stupid electric door handles is a problem that’s very specific to tesla, not something that is inherently systemic to the electric drive train. It’s a manufacturer issue, not a propulsion issue. Dying in an ICE fire might result from a bunch of reasons, from unconsciousness to being stuck in a crumpled car to doors not opening simply because they’re deformed.
Battery fires may emit more hazardous fumes but at the same time electric cars are much more unlikely to catch fire. I have never seen statistics that could even remotely suggest battery electric cars are more dangerous - it’s usually quite the opposite.


We’re talking about a small company. Keeping your lineup manageable keeps your processes in check. Offering fewer things means less stuff to take care of.
You can still easily get one through retailers if you want to, but they argued that sales were down, so they phased out selling the device. Just like they did with older models, which they then continued to support for years. So I call bullshit: as long as they don’t officially stop supporting the fp5 I have no reason to believe they would as they kept their promises before.


In fact this is already happening with the FP5 being discontinued a mere 2-3 years
What do you mean? It’s about 2 1/2 years old and receives updates regularly:
https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/18682800465169-Fairphone-5-Release-Notes
They also announced support until 2031. They stopped sales, which is fair enough, but supposedly will push it up to android 18. I never heard anything about them no longer providing support. Where did you get that idea?


it really disincentives them from their core mission of sustainable and long lasting phones that don’t need replacement every 2 years.
Huh? Why would it? You know that people can plan ahead, including their company’s budget?


What a dumb article…
First sentence:
Generative AI, especially large language models (LLMs), present exciting and unprecedented opportunities and complex challenges for academic research and scholarship.
No, they don’t. Who writes such crap?


Please, go ahead and explain what kind of democracy you’d prefer to that one and how you’d get there by having a mob burning people.


Why don’t you get into politics to create laws against this so you can take those that are responsible to court and get them into prison then? That would seem a bit less unhinged than calling for a mob to burn people alive.


You do know that by taking such a stance on politics and being active about it, you’re pretty much a politician yourself?
I mean, where do you draw the line? After you burned Bernie and aoc on the stake, each for being too much of a politician, who’s next? Anybody who’s willing to take political responsibility in any way? Anybody who ever had a public office? You’d burn the middle management of NASA next? Or do you need to have been voted for, do you’ll just kill anybody who ever participated in some stupid school board?
But yeah, whatever, you’re obviously unhinged and insane, so go ahead and keep agitating against people you consider not left enough. You know that there’s someone like you left of you doing the same thing about you, right?


Aaaaaand straight to “we should fight democracy”. Unbelievable.
“Damn fascists, killing people and destroying democracy! To protect people and democracy from them, let’s kill people and destroy democracy!”


The left: “yes, you got that right, we should totally kill people that support our cause but in the wrong way.”
Also the left: “why can’t we get people on board?”


As unhinged as suggesting to… burn people?


We should do it but kill people that join that we do not deem worthy of supporting our cause
Nope, still not getting better.
I hate this.