• Avanke Ⓐ🏴@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    Just a clarification:

    You will not be called a “bootlicker” because you support think cops are there to protect you. That’s something reasonable to believe.

    You will be called a “bootlicker” because you are in support of the state, which defends the interest of those in power (aka. political class, “the rich,” bourgeoisie, etc) and its soldiers, which are cops.

    I mean no harm; I’m not calling you a “bootlicker.” You are a decent human just sharing your experience. I want to bring “the other side” perspective in a friendly way. I was thinking like you until I was at the other end of their macanas for helping other decent people.

    The ACAB is a widespread movement in South America and has good reasons to exist since it is adjacent to Antifa. But the overall reason to hate cops is based on the argument that I explained before in a very brief way.

    Since I abide by the movement, I invite you to check it out so you can engage more deeply in the conversation. For a starter, I may interest you in:

    And sorry for not sharing other voices outside the anglosphere who cover the topic. It is just that they don’t speak English, so we can’t understand each other.

    Take care, fellow stranger.

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      1 year ago

      You should come to terms with the fact that not everyone is an anarchist and believes that any form of the concept of a state is by itself evil.

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        1 year ago

        Just because your statement is true, doesn’t mean the idea that the institution of police isn’t rotten to the core.

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          1 year ago

          Again with the absolute statements, as if you and only you knew the absolute truth of the universe.

          There are a lot of problems with current police forces, in Europe as well. These must be fixed, sooner than later. But again, most people know we need some institution to uphold the law, because most people aren’t naive enough to be absolute anarchists.

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            1 year ago

            There are a lot of problems with current police forces, in Europe as well.

            And this is what ACAB is meant to address. It’s not saying we shouldn’t have rule of law, and it’s not saying the law shouldn’t be enforced. It’s saying the current mechanism has serious issues that need to be addressed as a whole.

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              1 year ago

              But there are folks in this comments, specifically the person I originally replied to, talking about how any form of law enforcement and a state is by definition evil, and falling very short of calling OP who disagrees a bootlicker.

              That’s who I’m addressing.

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                Well, if there are faults and bad actors in police organisations that are allowed to persist, it goes down the road of bad apples spoiling the rest of them.

                This is a situation where apathy is acceptance. And by and large police units protect their own to the detriment of the reputation of the so called profession. Which is more than apathy, its consigning it. Anything less than excision of the rot is allowing it to spread.