Funny how you chose to ignore the fact that Crimea is populated by Russians. I guess that doesn’t fit the narrative you’re trying to create.
And yet, it’s part of Ukraine! With a referendum observed by Russia and not Ukraine… interesting.
BRUH, I’ve seen you here bloviating exclusively about Ukraine and nothing else. If you care about the horrors that your government engages in equally as much it’s rather weird that you only talk about Ukraine.
Once again, you do not know me outside of this platform or the actions I do elsewhere. You can’t assert shit here.
The west is directly responsible for creating the situation that led to the war starting with overthrowing the government in Ukraine in 2014. Continuing the narrative that west did nothing wrong isn’t helping anything. The west cynically used Ukraine and then discarded it. That’s what actually happened.
This line of logic is a stretch and suggesting I am continuing a narrative that the west did nothing wrong is also wrong. Good try though!
No, my view point is that the west should find a way to negotiate with Russia instead of pushing us towards a world war. If you can’t understand that then there’s nothing else to say to you.
However, you are assuming that this isn’t happening? What mystical source can you conjure that implies the west has done absolutely nothing to de-escalate? This baseless shit feeds into propaganda.
Once again you’re doing moralizing. The invasion happened, and no amount of grandstanding is going to change that. The question now is how to reduce human suffering and avoid a world war. Anybody who is not utterly insane understands this, but you evidently do not.
Grandstanding isn’t the objective here, you rationalise propaganda, you link propaganda and if you didn’t respond to messages I would have suspected that you were a propaganda bot.
It’s so weird that you actively rationalise the actions of a fascist regime and even dismiss concerns people have had over the actions this regime has done. You get called out because your arguments and sources aren’t lining up here and you have posted prop in this community. To really exemplify this: You have literally linked a conspiracy theory article!
I’ve repeatedly denounced Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and stated that it’s utterly unjustified. I love how you ignore that and keep claiming that I support the invasion. You’re an intellectually dishonest individual.
Congrats, you have denounced an invasion! Not necessarily the point I am making but more the weird objectives you have of the west instead of Russia. It reads like propaganda because you are spouting propaganda.
You’re an intellectually dishonest individual.
Says the person who has literally linked a conspiracy theory articles and tried to pass it off as legitimate source of information.
If you disapprove of the actions of your government and aren’t able to hold it accountable you have no business screeching about Russia. It’s really that simple.
Ah yes, the classic “Well you haven’t fixed your government, you can’t comment on other governments” angle. Before ‘screeching’ as you have said about the west or anything else, fix things with your own government then :)
Seriously that’s gatekeeping shit here.
Once again! Your responses give me a great chuckle :)
And yet, it’s part of Ukraine! With a referendum observed by Russia and not Ukraine… interesting.
Yes, it’s so interesting that a bunch of Russians didn’t want to be part of Ukraine after the regime outlawed the use of Russian language. You are a very smart person indeed!
Once again, you do not know me outside of this platform or the actions I do elsewhere. You can’t assert shit here.
I can only judge you by the way you behave on this platform, and that doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
This line of logic is a stretch and suggesting I am continuing a narrative that the west did nothing wrong is also wrong. Good try though!
Please show me where you acknowledge the fact that the west is responsible for creating this situation.
However, you are assuming that this isn’t happening? What mystical source can you conjure that implies the west has done absolutely nothing to de-escalate? This baseless shit feeds into propaganda.
Please be specific what actions you’re claiming the west is taking to de-escalate. Is it sending weapons and mercenaries to fight in Ukraine, doing sanctions, or cancelling anything related to Russia?
Grandstanding isn’t the objective here, you rationalise propaganda, you link propaganda and if you didn’t respond to messages I would have suspected that you were a propaganda bot.
You’re literally the one engaging in propaganda here. You keep parroting the NATO narrative like the bot that you are. Literally all your account activity has been doing that.
To really exemplify this: You have literally linked a conspiracy theory article!
I have not, and you keep calling it that won’t change facts.
It reads like propaganda because you are spouting propaganda.
Literally how your every single comment reads.
Says the person who has literally linked a conspiracy theory articles and tried to pass it off as legitimate source of information.
Continuing to claim that is precisely intellectual dishonesty I’m talking about.
Ah yes, the classic “Well you haven’t fixed your government, you can’t comment on other governments” angle. Before ‘screeching’ as you have said about the west or anything else, fix things with your own government then :)
I live in the west you dumb propaganda bot.
Once again! Your responses give me a great chuckle :)
Yes, it’s so interesting that a bunch of Russians didn’t want to be part of Ukraine after the regime outlawed the use of Russian language. You are a very smart person indeed!
You say this while also ignoring the rest of the situation surrounding it! Once again! Interesting!
I can only judge you by the way you behave on this platform, and that doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
So you make shit up… got it.
Please show me where you acknowledge the fact that the west is responsible for creating this situation.
Nah, it’s more fun if you go back and read what I have written. You’re really bad at it so you need the practice :)
However, it’s definitely in the comment section of this post!
You’re literally the one engaging in propaganda here. You keep parroting the NATO narrative like the bot that you are. Literally all your account activity has been doing that.
I mean… I’ve linked you an article from Russian State Media Organisation that literally is spouting ethno-nationalist rhetoric… You’re conveniently ignoring it. You have linked a Katchanovski article which is debunkable by visiting the references and checking to see if they are legitimate and correlating it with the argument that they are made with.
I have not, and you keep calling it that won’t change facts.
Continuing to claim that is precisely intellectual dishonesty I’m talking about.
Check the references, check the citations and check if he is peer reviewed and where he publishes. You will get a very clear picture that this guy has literally fabricated resources for his research paper and commits academic dishonesty.
I live in the west you dumb propaganda bot.
Cool! So you going to address the problem with your government then? :)
It’s really cute that you are copying me! Here’s hoping you can copy me by being a better person :)
You say this while also ignoring the rest of the situation surrounding it! Once again! Interesting!
Why don’t you enlighten us about the “rest of the situation”.
So you make shit up… got it.
Look at your comment history.
Nah, it’s more fun if you go back and read what I have written
LMAO
You have linked a Katchanovski article which is debunkable by visiting the references and checking to see if they are legitimate and correlating it with the argument that they are made with.
I’ve linked a bunch of articles from western media supporting what I’m saying, curious that you ignore all that. You’re such a sad troll.
You will get a very clear picture that this guy has literally fabricated resources for his research paper and commits academic dishonesty.
You keep saying that, I guess it just doesn’t fit the narrative you’re trying to paint.
Cool! So you going to address the problem with your government then?
By acknowledging what it does and educating people about it. What exactly do you do except spreading propaganda for the west?
It’s really cute that you are copying me! Here’s hoping you can copy me by being a better person :)
Keep telling yourself whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
Why don’t you enlighten us about the “rest of the situation”.
I have and you have ignored it, like usual. So… no surprise there!
Look at your comment history.
Which just says how I interact with you, not necessarily what I believe outside of this or what I do outside of this thread. If this is how you derive information then no wonder you are in trouble :)
LMAO
I’m sorry you suck at reading, if I had known :(
I’ve linked a bunch of articles from western media supporting what I’m saying, curious that you ignore all that. You’re such a sad troll.
Do they? Please read them buddy! I literally responded to your bullshit with your own resources and you failed to make a decent rebuttal to counter my points.
By acknowledging what it does and educating people about it. What exactly do you do except spreading propaganda for the west?
Come on now, you should be holding them more accountable! I want to see more stuff about your government on Lemmy and the things you disapprove of it! Why are you posting about Russia, Ukraine and China when you should be dedicating your activism to against your government!
So the fact you haven’t rebutted majority of my posts and you mostly cry “STOP REWRITING HISTORY” then go on an irrelevant tangent to not just me but most people responding to you? Well… I guess you’re trying.
Keep telling yourself whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
I sleep fine sweetie and I can tell you’re hurt because you had a little cry session with your friends in another thread :)
I have and you have ignored it, like usual. So… no surprise there!
I haven’t ignored anything.
Which just says how I interact with you, not necessarily what I believe outside of this or what I do outside of this thread.
You practically have no other comment history aside from arguing nonsense about Ukraine.
I’m sorry you suck at reading, if I had known :(
LMAO
Do they? Please read them buddy! I literally responded to your bullshit with your own resources and you failed to make a decent rebuttal to counter my points.
I’m sorry you suck at reading, if I had known :(
So the fact you haven’t rebutted majority of my posts
I sleep fine sweetie and I can tell you’re hurt because you had a little cry session with your friends in another thread :)
The fact that you keep coming back to this thread tells me just how bothered you actually are inside. You can hide from yourself, but you can’t hide from me sweetie.
Both of you are making logical fallacies, because it’s almost impossible to have a debate between two humans without people making logical fallacies. We think emotionally, not logically, and this is an issue that clearly you are passionate about. However, it is possible to have a discussion without resorting to insults.
Thank you to ahtoms for being the one to back down.
And yet, it’s part of Ukraine! With a referendum observed by Russia and not Ukraine… interesting.
Once again, you do not know me outside of this platform or the actions I do elsewhere. You can’t assert shit here.
This line of logic is a stretch and suggesting I am continuing a narrative that the west did nothing wrong is also wrong. Good try though!
However, you are assuming that this isn’t happening? What mystical source can you conjure that implies the west has done absolutely nothing to de-escalate? This baseless shit feeds into propaganda.
Grandstanding isn’t the objective here, you rationalise propaganda, you link propaganda and if you didn’t respond to messages I would have suspected that you were a propaganda bot.
It’s so weird that you actively rationalise the actions of a fascist regime and even dismiss concerns people have had over the actions this regime has done. You get called out because your arguments and sources aren’t lining up here and you have posted prop in this community. To really exemplify this: You have literally linked a conspiracy theory article!
Congrats, you have denounced an invasion! Not necessarily the point I am making but more the weird objectives you have of the west instead of Russia. It reads like propaganda because you are spouting propaganda.
Says the person who has literally linked a conspiracy theory articles and tried to pass it off as legitimate source of information.
Ah yes, the classic “Well you haven’t fixed your government, you can’t comment on other governments” angle. Before ‘screeching’ as you have said about the west or anything else, fix things with your own government then :)
Seriously that’s gatekeeping shit here.
Once again! Your responses give me a great chuckle :)
Yes, it’s so interesting that a bunch of Russians didn’t want to be part of Ukraine after the regime outlawed the use of Russian language. You are a very smart person indeed!
I can only judge you by the way you behave on this platform, and that doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
Please show me where you acknowledge the fact that the west is responsible for creating this situation.
Please be specific what actions you’re claiming the west is taking to de-escalate. Is it sending weapons and mercenaries to fight in Ukraine, doing sanctions, or cancelling anything related to Russia?
You’re literally the one engaging in propaganda here. You keep parroting the NATO narrative like the bot that you are. Literally all your account activity has been doing that.
I have not, and you keep calling it that won’t change facts.
Literally how your every single comment reads.
Continuing to claim that is precisely intellectual dishonesty I’m talking about.
I live in the west you dumb propaganda bot.
Once again! Your responses give me a great chuckle :)
You say this while also ignoring the rest of the situation surrounding it! Once again! Interesting!
So you make shit up… got it.
Nah, it’s more fun if you go back and read what I have written. You’re really bad at it so you need the practice :)
However, it’s definitely in the comment section of this post!
I mean… I’ve linked you an article from Russian State Media Organisation that literally is spouting ethno-nationalist rhetoric… You’re conveniently ignoring it. You have linked a Katchanovski article which is debunkable by visiting the references and checking to see if they are legitimate and correlating it with the argument that they are made with.
Review this guy’s stuff before linking it https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ivan-Katchanovski
Check the references, check the citations and check if he is peer reviewed and where he publishes. You will get a very clear picture that this guy has literally fabricated resources for his research paper and commits academic dishonesty.
Cool! So you going to address the problem with your government then? :)
It’s really cute that you are copying me! Here’s hoping you can copy me by being a better person :)
Why don’t you enlighten us about the “rest of the situation”.
Look at your comment history.
LMAO
I’ve linked a bunch of articles from western media supporting what I’m saying, curious that you ignore all that. You’re such a sad troll.
You keep saying that, I guess it just doesn’t fit the narrative you’re trying to paint.
By acknowledging what it does and educating people about it. What exactly do you do except spreading propaganda for the west?
Keep telling yourself whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
I have and you have ignored it, like usual. So… no surprise there!
Which just says how I interact with you, not necessarily what I believe outside of this or what I do outside of this thread. If this is how you derive information then no wonder you are in trouble :)
I’m sorry you suck at reading, if I had known :(
Do they? Please read them buddy! I literally responded to your bullshit with your own resources and you failed to make a decent rebuttal to counter my points.
Come on now, you should be holding them more accountable! I want to see more stuff about your government on Lemmy and the things you disapprove of it! Why are you posting about Russia, Ukraine and China when you should be dedicating your activism to against your government!
So the fact you haven’t rebutted majority of my posts and you mostly cry “STOP REWRITING HISTORY” then go on an irrelevant tangent to not just me but most people responding to you? Well… I guess you’re trying.
I sleep fine sweetie and I can tell you’re hurt because you had a little cry session with your friends in another thread :)
I haven’t ignored anything.
You practically have no other comment history aside from arguing nonsense about Ukraine.
LMAO
I’m sorry you suck at reading, if I had known :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law
The fact that you keep coming back to this thread tells me just how bothered you actually are inside. You can hide from yourself, but you can’t hide from me sweetie.
Both of you are making logical fallacies, because it’s almost impossible to have a debate between two humans without people making logical fallacies. We think emotionally, not logically, and this is an issue that clearly you are passionate about. However, it is possible to have a discussion without resorting to insults.
Thank you to ahtoms for being the one to back down.