Here we go again…

  • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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    8 months ago

    Never been to Glasgow then?

    Nope I haven’t… Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom

    In 2018 there were 4,629 criminal gangs and syndicates in Britain, employing 33,598 professional gangsters.

    Which translates to about 5 per 10000 people are in a gang in Britain…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population

    an estimated 1.4 million in 33,000 gangs in 2011.[1][2][3] About 900,000 gang members lived “within local communities across the country”, and about 147,000 were in U.S. prisons or jails in 2009.[4]

    Which translates to about… 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA…

    So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.

    Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially… it’s much higher…

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        8 months ago

        Taking them away certainly isn’t… Criminals don’t care about laws… That’s kind of the definition.

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            8 months ago

            I’m not tracking. You think that taking guns away will somehow make the 1.4 million people abstain from gang violence?

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              8 months ago

              What does the evidence say? I’d bet that taking guns away leads to less gun deaths.

              It’s weird that nobody banged on about gun rights until the black panthers did.

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                8 months ago

                What does the evidence say? I’d bet that taking guns away leads to less gun deaths.

                Not shit sherlock. But taking guns away doesn’t lower homicide rates. Odd that you can reduce gun deaths but not reduce deaths overall isn’t it?.. At this point we’re talking in circles. I’ve covered this so many posts ago with you.

                It’s weird that nobody banged on about gun rights until the black panthers did.

                Not sure how this is even remotely relevant.