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  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    There’s only two teams. The imaginary side you made up in your head doesn’t exist.

    It’s Hamas or Israel. Pick one.

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      1 year ago

      Almost a troll-like insistence on lack of nuance to an extremely complex situation

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        The invocation of nuance is a trick to get you to not take a stance that matters and to stay trapped in your own head cooking up imaginary solutions that can never and will never happen.

        The actually nuanced position is to support Hamas despite its flaws, because they’re the only material force that is fighting for Gaza.

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            The actually nuanced position is to be opposed to the bloodshed and race/religion-based tribalism happening with both the Israeli government AND Hamas, and to do more than just “tut tut” Israel’s recent activities in the West Bank and the virtual prison they’ve turned Gaza into.

            Hamas is resisting Zionism, not Jews. They’re pretty explicit about that.

            So if you oppose race/religion-based tribalism you support Hamas, because they’re the ones opposing it.

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              I don’t support Hamas because they support violent overthrow of Zionists.

              I do agree that up until last weekend they were the best option for stability and support of the Palestinian people in the region, however. But the current operation was a suicide mission and they’ve taken the entire Palestinian population with them.

              Then again, the alternative was annihilation by a billion cuts. Still doesn’t mean I support their approach, just like I don’t support the state of Israel’s response (or that of the countries supporting them).

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        By not picking a side you become invisible and irrelevant. If you don’t want to pick a side, just tune out and go play video games or something because it’s basically the same thing.

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          No shit that I am irrelevant to the war in Gaza. I live on the other side of the world and dont have any political power. The most I could do is try to send some money to aid the Palestinian refugees, and I still would be invisible and irrelevant to it. Are you sending money, supplies, armaments, or fighting for Hamas? If not you are invisible and irrelevant to this conflict yourself. Just like 99.999% of the world’s population.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            Vocal support matters in democracies. If Western governments stopped supporting Israel this war would be very different.

            By not even vocally supporting anything you have taken away your own voice. You’ve silenced yourself.

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            When Palestinians held peaceful marches for freedom, Israel blew their knees out. Pacifism doesn’t work when one side thinks you’re animals.

            Also, by choosing to not pick a side, you’re just tacitly siding with the winning side. Which side do your tax dollars go to?