“It’s time we grow up,” says former moderator of jailbait subreddit.

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    1 year ago

    Are you trying to bring your Reddit = Chinese government xenophobic r/conspiracy Reddit nonsense here? Would you like to provide proof? Because this is violating a rule.

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      1 year ago

      I am asking this in full earnestness: is any critique of the Chinese government assumed to be rooted in xenophobia?

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        Most of it has its roots in xenophobia and crushing the “near-peer competitors”, yes. You can ask US government about Cold War McCarthyist propaganda which is spread by NATO (US/Europe) media. You can even go back as far as 1940 to find a short film series Drums of Fu Manchu (check YouTube), which is before NATO’s creation, or the Opium War I by Britain in 1856 and British Raj on India for 2 centuries.

        Orientalism, xenophobia and imperialist looting/plundering against East are historically well known evil deeds of Anglosphere.

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          I feel that maybe you’re reading my question as ‘critique of China is inherently support for the west/US/etc’ which I absolutely do not mean. I think that it’s possible that painting all critique with a broad ‘xenophobia’ brush (while undoubtedly warranted at times) can prevent discussion in good faith.

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            The above poster specifically “corrected” parent commenter, knowing very well the conspiratorial xenophobic notions he was propagating. Most Anglo people never talk about China/Russia (or any country that is NOT a “western neoliberal democracy” or its vassal state) in good faith, because Cold War McCarthyist poison is filled in their heads, resulting in a knee jerk reaction whenever they see the words “China” or “Russia”. There is no reason why Anglosphere participants should be given benefit of doubt, when instead of following by example, they continue to get more vitriolic everyday. I am happy that Russians cannot be dehumanised on Lemmy, considering how much of a cesspool Reddit is.

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              If this is the thinking I can expect on this instance, perhaps this is not the instance for me.

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                If you want to practice xenophobic discrimination, this might not be the instance for you. This behaviour has zero tolerance here.

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      I think he’s referring to how Reddit used to operate on Tencent funding.
      Tencent is partially owned by the Chinese government.

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      It’s well known and accepted that the Chinese government has significant control of Chinese companies, and Reddit is partially owned by Tencent. That’s not xenophobic.

      The fact that it’s something like a 5% stake is more relevant.

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        Read the below response. https://lemmy.ml/comment/750332

        Condé Nast and one American VC hold more shares than Tencent, plus Reddit is astroturfed by US military, as seen during 2015. https://old.reddit.com/r/Blackout2015/comments/4ylml3/reddit_has_removed_their_blog_post_identifying/

        The root of “Tencent CCP own Reddit” conspiracy literally lies in r/conspiracy to spread xenophobic sentiments against China. Anyone perpetuating this nonsense will face a ban after this.

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          “a literal US military arm” is just as ridiculous. It’s neither.

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            Far, far less ridiculous than “Chinese government controlled”, as there is real proof of US military astroturfers, as shown above, and Reddit even suppresses this information intentionally. The whole of frontpage is suspiciously filled with pro-US imperialist propaganda and an anti-China/Russia article every week with dozens of awards.

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              And you think there aren’t Russian and Chinese propagandists on Reddit?

              pro-US imperialist propaganda

              Right. Like all those school kids getting shot.