Speaking as an American here… could we NOT park cars in the left lane. I’ve seen enough habits of drivers in other countries where the left lane is exclusively for passing, it’s so simple and superior for traffic but Americans be dumb selfish shits behind the wheel.
You don’t understand, I have to turn left in 25 km and what if I can’t get back into my lane after I let you pass and I miss my turn. I’m not a confident driver so I am going to do what’s safest and best for me and everyone else can just accept it. I’m going fast enough at 5km over the posted speed limit and you can just slow down, life isn’t a race unless I need it to be.
Sounds reasonable until you realize 90km/h is an arbitrary number that doesn’t mean anything, and having someone purposely impede all traffic behind them because of their lack of skill behind the wheel will cause more accidents than they think they’re preventing.
My dude, I will guarantee you that the amount of thought that was put into that 90km/h for that portion of the road far exceeds the average amount of thought you put into what every speed limit should be for everywhere you travel.
And even if you’re right, what do we do now? Do all drivers know your thoughts and should stick to your proposed speed limits because you’re right? Should everyone driving set their own mental speed limit and follow it? You don’t get to a better outcome in either of those situations.
If you don’t like the speed limit, lobby the people in charge to change it. Come up with the data necessary and present your case. But until then, some drivers will choose to follow the law, stick to the current speed limit and not risk their license being suspended (or getting into car wrecks), so you should learn to deal with that.
Trust me, I’m from a part of Europe where people think like you most of the time. “fuck the speed limit, I know better, I’ve been driving for X years”. You know what that leads to? Highest rate of car accidents in the EU.
Where i live it’s fucking madness. People change lanes randomly, sit in the far left going 10 under the limit, pass on the right or left at seeming random, and sometimes just drive in the middle lane doing 30 mph in a 70 mph zone with their fucking hazards on. Don’t even get me started on their merge technique, jealousy and resentment are what rule people’s decisions and nobody has ever even heard of zipper merging. It’s a shock there aren’t more accidents than there are.
I once watched someone sitting in the far left at the limit, come up against someone driving on the left going 10 under, decide to undertake, and then slow down to like 30 under to “punish” the person.
I’ve changed lanes to pass only to have people change in front of me to block me, then change back when i changed back.
But most of all, and it should be noted i drive a two seater sports car here, i’ve had people in their huge ass SUVs look over at me, MAKE EYE CONTACT with me, and then merge into whatever lane i was in at the time like they were trying to drive me off the road.
I think the real trouble is that it’s hard to convict on that. It’s not like speeding, where you either are or you aren’t, it’s much harder to establish that you shouldn’t be in the outside lane. I mean, it seems pretty clear in most cases, but the lack of a clearly defined boundary makes it very difficult in law. This ends up making it feel like a waste of time to law enforcement, both police and courts, because they could be doing things that will be more likely to have the intended outcome.
It’s really annoying though, because advanced driver courses sometimes do define it: 10 seconds.
If you’re not overtaking within 10 seconds, you should move over. Personally, I find it easier to estimate a 7 second distance by eye - 10 seconds is quite conservative.
No, they let me go with a warning, but while the one was talking to me, the other cop was peering in all my windows, so I’m pretty sure it was all an excuse to inspect people cars…
It’s a phrase some people use. Specifically prevalent in California. “Parking their Ass in the left lane” Means somebody driving in the left lane at 10mph below the speed limit.
Speaking as an American here… could we NOT park cars in the left lane. I’ve seen enough habits of drivers in other countries where the left lane is exclusively for passing, it’s so simple and superior for traffic but Americans be dumb selfish shits behind the wheel.
Left is for passing. You may not overtake in right lane. At least that’s how it works in Sweden. Thus if left lane is slow, right is slower.
I like this in concept. The issue is that we often get asshats who want to go slow in the left lane.
When my options are to go 5 under the speed limit, or pass on the right, I’m passing on the right every time.
You don’t understand, I have to turn left in 25 km and what if I can’t get back into my lane after I let you pass and I miss my turn. I’m not a confident driver so I am going to do what’s safest and best for me and everyone else can just accept it. I’m going fast enough at 5km over the posted speed limit and you can just slow down, life isn’t a race unless I need it to be.
-The asshole I encounter daily on my commute.
turn left WHERE. ON A HIGHWAY?? WAAAAAAAAAAAA
My highway has lights because the gov’t was too cheap for clovers in the 90s.
They meant the left turn at the very end of the hifhway /s
The more I read about this asshole character, the more reasonable he got.
25km seems like a lot to not let someone pass
Oh, well I guess I can understand that.
Wait, the guy is going 5km over the posted speed limit? What are you complaining about then?
I guess it’s true what they say, if you run into one asshole, they’re an asshole. If you constantly run into assholes, you’re the asshole.
Sounds reasonable until you realize 90km/h is an arbitrary number that doesn’t mean anything, and having someone purposely impede all traffic behind them because of their lack of skill behind the wheel will cause more accidents than they think they’re preventing.
My dude, I will guarantee you that the amount of thought that was put into that 90km/h for that portion of the road far exceeds the average amount of thought you put into what every speed limit should be for everywhere you travel.
And even if you’re right, what do we do now? Do all drivers know your thoughts and should stick to your proposed speed limits because you’re right? Should everyone driving set their own mental speed limit and follow it? You don’t get to a better outcome in either of those situations.
If you don’t like the speed limit, lobby the people in charge to change it. Come up with the data necessary and present your case. But until then, some drivers will choose to follow the law, stick to the current speed limit and not risk their license being suspended (or getting into car wrecks), so you should learn to deal with that.
Trust me, I’m from a part of Europe where people think like you most of the time. “fuck the speed limit, I know better, I’ve been driving for X years”. You know what that leads to? Highest rate of car accidents in the EU.
In the US, generally you cannot pass in the right lane except when the left lane refuses to move over despite having ample room
In the US it varies depending on which state you’re in and which way the wind is blowing up the cop’s asshole.
Does this apply inside the city aswell? In Germany, this only applys outside the city…
In Sweden passing on the right is only permitted in two main scenarios.
Rate of speed lower than 70kph, or the lanes go to different destinations.
Where i live it’s fucking madness. People change lanes randomly, sit in the far left going 10 under the limit, pass on the right or left at seeming random, and sometimes just drive in the middle lane doing 30 mph in a 70 mph zone with their fucking hazards on. Don’t even get me started on their merge technique, jealousy and resentment are what rule people’s decisions and nobody has ever even heard of zipper merging. It’s a shock there aren’t more accidents than there are.
I once watched someone sitting in the far left at the limit, come up against someone driving on the left going 10 under, decide to undertake, and then slow down to like 30 under to “punish” the person.
I’ve changed lanes to pass only to have people change in front of me to block me, then change back when i changed back.
But most of all, and it should be noted i drive a two seater sports car here, i’ve had people in their huge ass SUVs look over at me, MAKE EYE CONTACT with me, and then merge into whatever lane i was in at the time like they were trying to drive me off the road.
Fuck!
I’ve actually been pulled over for being in the left lane too long in the US, so it does happen, but not enough.
Did you get a ticket?
I think the real trouble is that it’s hard to convict on that. It’s not like speeding, where you either are or you aren’t, it’s much harder to establish that you shouldn’t be in the outside lane. I mean, it seems pretty clear in most cases, but the lack of a clearly defined boundary makes it very difficult in law. This ends up making it feel like a waste of time to law enforcement, both police and courts, because they could be doing things that will be more likely to have the intended outcome.
It’s really annoying though, because advanced driver courses sometimes do define it: 10 seconds.
If you’re not overtaking within 10 seconds, you should move over. Personally, I find it easier to estimate a 7 second distance by eye - 10 seconds is quite conservative.
No, they let me go with a warning, but while the one was talking to me, the other cop was peering in all my windows, so I’m pretty sure it was all an excuse to inspect people cars…
It might be a density thing. I often notice that the left lane being full in dense city populations. Get a tad outside and it’s back to normal.
PARKING in the left lane? The hell? Isnt parking in any lane forbidden? Especially on a highway?
It’s a phrase some people use. Specifically prevalent in California. “Parking their Ass in the left lane” Means somebody driving in the left lane at 10mph below the speed limit.