Say no to ableism.

  • macniel@feddit.orgEnglish
    5413·
    10 days ago

    Say no to ableism.

    Say no to Clankers in general (they also really love to play the disabled card.)

        • WoodScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          233·
          10 days ago

          So? Disabled people aren’t magically excused from abhorrent behavior simply because they’re disabled. Is it easier for some disabled people to create art with AI than without it? Sure. But that’s true irrespective of disability.

          It’s only inappropriate to judge someone for something that directly relates to their disability. You’re just using disability as an excuse to churn out slop.

          I cannot think of a single disability that would prevent someone from creating art without AI, without also disabling them so completely that they would be able to create art with AI. A quadriplegic person can create art if they want. And it will have infinitely more soul than some slop by someone hiding behind a disability.

        • cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          162·
          10 days ago

          Assuming they are disabled, which a passerby like myself cannot be expected to know, that does not excuse the deliberate choice to use ethically unsound technology. It’s especially true in this case, as even if a disability limits your potential as a visual artist, you’ll gladly commission somebody if you have any respect for the craft. I know this because I too have such a disability, and it hurts. It hurts knowing I might forever depend on the hands of others to bring some of my ideas to life, but you know what? That only strengthens my appreciation of visual artists and their work. I’d rather commission a talented artist to mix my silly brainwaves with their personal flourishes and create something meaningful, ten times over, then throw some words at an industrialized theft machine to get soulless slop.

    • calliope@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      439·
      10 days ago

      Oh are we calling disabled people “Clankers” now?

      Haha it’s extraordinary that this drivel is the top comment. Keep up the screeching about shit you don’t understand! At least the other idiots support you.

      Dunning-Kruger and bad reading comprehension in full effect.

      What do I hear? A bullying douchebag complaining that I didn’t “mark” my edits on a federated service?

      GoOd JoB fOr BeInG dIsHoNeSt

  • NeedyPlatterEnglish
    31·
    10 days ago

    I’m out of the loop, how did this disabled person use AI to support themselves?

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
      53·
      10 days ago

      For one example, I’ve seen posts by blind folks using AI to vibe code scripts that fill gaps in accessibility solutions.

      It’s not hard stuff to code, it’s just that coders with the skill to fix it upstream either don’t understand the issue, or don’t give a shit.

  • panda_abyssEnglish
    2112·
    10 days ago

    Supporting the disabled is genuinely a good use of AI.

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2411·
      10 days ago

      Everyone who is shit at writing claims they’re disabled and need AI as an excuse for posting slop.

      Being lazy and uneducated is not a disability.

      • panda_abyssEnglish
        55·
        10 days ago

        Yes, all disabled people have the same ability.

        None of them need accessibility tools like image descriptions and segmentation, or dictation and writing assistance.

        You got me.

        • WoodScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          63·
          10 days ago

          Enough with the deliberate bad faith takes. You’re not fooling anyone. It’s just infantile.

          The point is that pick any disability you can imagine, and you’ll find people with that disability creating art. And creating art in countless fields and media. Is it easier to get an LLM to vomit out an image for you? Sure. But again, the same thing applies to non-disabled people.

          This has nothing to do with having a disability. It has everything to do with being lazy.

          • panda_abyssEnglish
            55·
            10 days ago

            I never ever said anything to the contrary of that.

            I said generative ai can be used to help disabled people.

  • Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    51·
    9 days ago

    So there’s tech that I think is both bad for society and incredibly unethical in it’s creation and propagation that is nothing to say of the utter privacy nightmare it poses for its users.

    But all of this is now okay so long as the person using it is from a disadvantaged enough background?

    Like, I understand that we want to make extra effort in order to accommodate those with disabilities in our society and part of that can be some moral compromise.

    But surely this has limits, no? In fact I know that those limits exist.

    But is it really ableism to defer to those?

    I’m not saying that the person you encountered wasn’t ableist. But there is a lot more nuance there than “people who hate ‘AI’ are ableist by default”. The same way that people who are in favour of abolishing cars in their city are not doing so to specifically take mobility options away from paraplegics.

  • Pinto, the Bean@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    9 days ago

    God forbid a disabled person use a tool to aid themselves, might as well hate on TTS programs and motorized wheelchairs.

    Watch, they’ll claim they don’t dislike the disabled person, but also will shit talk them more than an able person.