Again, there were no communists in Russia, Stalin was a monster, and Trofim Lysenko was a fucking moron and con-man.
The worst part of Lysenkoism was that Russia exported it to China after they knew damn well that it was fucking stupid.
But again, I can’t stress this enough, none of those places were communist. They still used money, they still traded with others, the means of production were state owned, not worker owned.
Authoritarian dictatorships with state run capitalism pretending to be communist.
We’ve come close a few times, but assholes from outside have stepped in to crush them.
The Free Territory of Ukraine existed from 1918 to 1921under the loose leadership of Nester Makhno. The Bolsheviks under Lenin crushed it, because actual communism was a threat to their authoritarian ideals. Even so, It wasn’t quite at the level of true communism.
Catalonia in the late 1930s was actually close to true communism, and saw massive increases in the standard of living and overall production, until the Fascist dictator Franco won the Spanish Civil War with help from Hitler.
It’s a running theme. Every time the people saw enough of the bullshit, fascists and authoritarians jump in and try to seize control again.
In the slow times between the fascists and authoritarians committing violence against the left, bootlickers spread lies and pro-capitalist propaganda, even when they don’t actually understand the words they type.
For thousands of years, kings and their nobles were the “strongest society” and then we the people happened to them.
The entire concept of Social Darwinism is a construct of the Nazis to justify their bullshit, it’s since migrated to the wider audience of right-wing dipshits who can’t open a history book unless it has eagles on the cover.
Coincidentally, about 75% of the anti-communist activity of the last 100 years has been a combination of ignorant right-wing dipshit and literal Nazis. The world anti-communist league still exists (with a name change), and still spends money on spreading literal Nazi propaganda (with a coat of paint).
The other 25% of the anti-communist activity has come from pretend communists who felt threatened. (see Hungary, 1956)
Oh, I switched from pro-communist arguments a while back, now I’m subtly mocking you because you have no fucking clue what your own position entails.
You, without any knowledge of history, economics, or anything actually relevant, have picked the side of the bootlickers, hoping that one day you too can cast people out into the streets to starve because it’s more profitable to outsource their jobs to some third world village where you can pay rates that are almost, but not quite starvation wages.
See, there you go with your complete lack of historical knowledge.
I already gave you two great examples of the classless, stateless societies that brave men and women built before outside forces attacked and murdered them all.
You didn’t believe they existed at all because you have never opened an actual history book that doesn’t have an eagle on the cover.
You also don’t seem to know that famines and starvation (Currently about 9 million deaths per year) are part and parcel of capitalism, because after all, if starving in the street wasn’t a threat, no one would slave away their lives to make money. This is especially true in the global south. Places where people lived in communities for thousands of years with only the occasional famine, now live in constant fear of starvation, all while they grow more food than ever, but have to ship that food to rich countries that throw half of it away. All because someone came in and forced them to pretend that money is real.
Hell, if you want examples of communities coming together and saying that money is fake, just look at people on the ground during any sort of natural disaster. There are thousands of examples of human kindness triumphing over the petty greed of jackasses like yourself, because that’s what capitalism is at its core, greed made manifest.
At the core of it all, communism is about communities coming together and sharing without reservation, and capitalism is the individual taking all for themselves, using force if they have to.
Again, there were no communists in Russia, Stalin was a monster, and Trofim Lysenko was a fucking moron and con-man.
The worst part of Lysenkoism was that Russia exported it to China after they knew damn well that it was fucking stupid.
But again, I can’t stress this enough, none of those places were communist. They still used money, they still traded with others, the means of production were state owned, not worker owned.
Authoritarian dictatorships with state run capitalism pretending to be communist.
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We’ve come close a few times, but assholes from outside have stepped in to crush them.
The Free Territory of Ukraine existed from 1918 to 1921under the loose leadership of Nester Makhno. The Bolsheviks under Lenin crushed it, because actual communism was a threat to their authoritarian ideals. Even so, It wasn’t quite at the level of true communism.
Catalonia in the late 1930s was actually close to true communism, and saw massive increases in the standard of living and overall production, until the Fascist dictator Franco won the Spanish Civil War with help from Hitler.
It’s a running theme. Every time the people saw enough of the bullshit, fascists and authoritarians jump in and try to seize control again.
In the slow times between the fascists and authoritarians committing violence against the left, bootlickers spread lies and pro-capitalist propaganda, even when they don’t actually understand the words they type.
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For thousands of years, kings and their nobles were the “strongest society” and then we the people happened to them.
The entire concept of Social Darwinism is a construct of the Nazis to justify their bullshit, it’s since migrated to the wider audience of right-wing dipshits who can’t open a history book unless it has eagles on the cover.
Coincidentally, about 75% of the anti-communist activity of the last 100 years has been a combination of ignorant right-wing dipshit and literal Nazis. The world anti-communist league still exists (with a name change), and still spends money on spreading literal Nazi propaganda (with a coat of paint).
The other 25% of the anti-communist activity has come from pretend communists who felt threatened. (see Hungary, 1956)
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Americans love freedom, sure.
But they sure lack it.
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Freedom of speech? Yeah, I’ll give you that one.
America is in no position to argue FOR the welfare and safety of children, considering what those gun freedoms regularly do to them.
Everything else though? America lacks compared to its western allies.
Oh, I switched from pro-communist arguments a while back, now I’m subtly mocking you because you have no fucking clue what your own position entails.
You, without any knowledge of history, economics, or anything actually relevant, have picked the side of the bootlickers, hoping that one day you too can cast people out into the streets to starve because it’s more profitable to outsource their jobs to some third world village where you can pay rates that are almost, but not quite starvation wages.
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See, there you go with your complete lack of historical knowledge.
I already gave you two great examples of the classless, stateless societies that brave men and women built before outside forces attacked and murdered them all.
You didn’t believe they existed at all because you have never opened an actual history book that doesn’t have an eagle on the cover.
You also don’t seem to know that famines and starvation (Currently about 9 million deaths per year) are part and parcel of capitalism, because after all, if starving in the street wasn’t a threat, no one would slave away their lives to make money. This is especially true in the global south. Places where people lived in communities for thousands of years with only the occasional famine, now live in constant fear of starvation, all while they grow more food than ever, but have to ship that food to rich countries that throw half of it away. All because someone came in and forced them to pretend that money is real.
Hell, if you want examples of communities coming together and saying that money is fake, just look at people on the ground during any sort of natural disaster. There are thousands of examples of human kindness triumphing over the petty greed of jackasses like yourself, because that’s what capitalism is at its core, greed made manifest.
At the core of it all, communism is about communities coming together and sharing without reservation, and capitalism is the individual taking all for themselves, using force if they have to.