• Tavarin
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      1 year ago

      There’s also no direct democracies either, so what?

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          1 year ago

          I’m asking what your point is, or are you incapable of reading more than 6 words in a reply?

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            My point is:

            "Shit like this is why I don’t get (some of) the LGBTQ community’s fascination with communism and tankies.

            They have proven themselves just as anti-LGBTQ as the fascists."

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              Okay, and what does that have to do with fact China and the USSR aren’t/weren’t communist being convenient?

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                I just think it’s convenient that communism gets to live in this little “no true scotsman/communism” bubble where if a state adopts communism and fails, it immedietly gets labeled as “not a real communist” state.

                That way, instead of looking if there’s something wrong with communism itself, it can get written off as the fault of the state attempting it.

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                  It’s not really convenient. It’s that communism is an ideal that’s literally impossible for large groups of humans to obtain.

                  There has never been a communist state because there can’t be with people involved.

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                  state adopts communism

                  But no state has actually adopted communism. Communism as a basis of an economy requires communal ownership of all goods; not state ownership, but communal. Which country has ever done that?

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                    The state can also control everything. In which case, China, Vietnam and Cuba.