Where do I start with cycling? I come from a running background and I recently started cycling due to an injury. My longest rides as of now are 15 miles in 1.5 hours. I hope to cycle a century in a few months or so. But I’ve only been using a random bike that I’ve inherited.
What bike should I buy? My budget is 600 - 800$ and I only bike on road and flat surfaces. I have no idea on what brands or what parts are good. Should I get fitted at a bike shop? Should I build my own one?
Also, is overtraining a thing in biking? In the running world, injuries are pretty easy to get if you increase mileage too quickly but I’m not sure if this applies to biking aswell. Is there some sort of program that builds you up to ride for longer similar to Couch to 5K (C25K)?
I’d suggest a used road bike. In that price range a bike with an aluminium frame from the 2010s should be easy to find.
If you can buy a refurbished one from your local bike shop with some warranty that’d be the safest.
If you are not comfortable with drop bars my next suggestion would be a fitness/trekking bike, without any suspension.
Size fitting is important, check out any calculator what size would work for you.
Also you have to find well fitting contact points, especially when you start to go on longer rides: a comfortable saddle (harder is better in the long run), good grips/bar tape and pedals + shoes (clipless pedals later on perhaps)As for training I don’t think you can overdo it within sensible limits, your ass will hurt before that:).
You can check out interval training for building up staminaWhat about getting a new bike in that price range?
The new bikes at this price are usually specced with pretty basic components, that are prone to break way too soon.
Getting an older model that has higher end components is a better deal imo
I haven’t tried drop bars yet but when I was cycling with flat bars, my wrists were a bit sore at the end/
It might just take some getting used to. More likely you’re not on a properly fitted bike and have too much weight on your hands.
I’d go with an aluminum frame road bike if your intent is to work up to a 100 mile bike ride. Steel is more durable, but it is also way heavier which means over a longer ride, you are using more energy to keep things moving.
Why a road bike vs a hybrid or a mountain bike? Road bikes, hybrids, and mountain bikes all have different gear ratios, which impact your top speed. There are also weight differences between mountain bike frames, vs road bike frames, vs hybrids that also come into play. The rim/tire diameter impacts how far you travel per revolution. Even the way that tires are designed on these bikes make a difference.
-The gear ratio on a road bike can allow you to hit speeds of 50 mph while you are pedaling downhill. Depending on the mountain bike, your max speed might be closer to 20-30 miles per hour.
-Shocks on a mountain bike or hybrid will slightly rock as you pedal. This is stealing energy from you over long periods of time making your pedaling less efficient.
-Mountain bikes and sometimes hybrids traditionally have smaller rim/tire diameters, meaning you travel less distance per full turn of the wheel.
-In terms of tire design, most road tires are almost bald. This is because on a flat, dry surface you will generate enough friction to keep the tires from slipping. Mountain bikes have lots of knobs made to dig into the road/gravel/dirt, and tend to be a bit heavier. You may feel like you are less likely to slip with them, especially on wet road surface, but over a long ride they will make you less efficient and more tired. With hybrid tires, you’re looking at the worst of both worlds. The center of the tire is mostly bald, while the edge of the tire is knobby. If you’re trying to go for speed on a hybrid, like a road bike, you will find that the knobs on the edge fuck with the friction you’re generating in a turn, and the tires are more likely to skid/slip.
If you’re an every day rider going on short 10 mile rides you probably won’t feel much of a difference, between a road vs MTB, but on a long ride, I promise you will feel it. I did my first ever century ride on an aluminum mountain bike where I swapped out the MTB tires for baldies to try and make it more like a road bike. My suspension system on the mountain bike could also be locked to make the fork stiff. My first ride took me 10 hours and my average speed was about 16 mph. The second year I switched to an aluminum/carbon fiber road bike and I cut my time in half, avg speed was 25 mph.
Is over training a thing? It sure is. If you aren’t using cleats to clip into the pedals to take advantage of your opposite leg pulling up, while your main leg is pushing down, you end up having your quads doing all of the work, and they become overdeveloped. Overdeveloped or imbalanced quadriceps muscles can potentially contribute to a condition known as patella alta, or “high-riding patella”. This condition occurs when the kneecap (patella) sits higher than normal in the groove of the thighbone (femur). While often a congenital or developmental condition, it can be influenced by muscle imbalances around the knee. As someone that experienced this first hand, it hurts, a lot. For me, this condition developed over 20 years of constant cycling; (I cycle to commute and exercise.) As long as you can do it safely, without inflaming old injuries, you should find ways to work your other leg muscles to keep things in balance to prevent this.
In terms of training for a century, everyone is different. I spent a year training on a mountain bike and gym bike/spinning before I even attempted a century ride. Before you sign up for a long ride sign up for shorter rides, sag supported rides. Start with 20, then 40, then 60 mile rides. (Sag support means there is a vehicle that follows behind the cyclists to offer support, or pit stops along the route to help with breakdowns, snacks, water ect.) Before I did my first century, on my bastardized mountain bike, I was able to do a 60 mile ride no problem. On the century ride, I hit my wall around 80 miles, the last 20 were pure torture.
Other considerations - learn to fix a flat tire, and make a point to carry spare inner tubes, a pump, and a pressure gauge, or pump with gauge for ANY ride that will take you away from where you can get reliable transportation or a ride to pick you up if you have a flat. In my area, the roads are absolute dogshit and full of major potholes, which are sometimes unavoidable resulting in a pinch flat. A pinch flat, also known as a snakebite, is a type of flat tire on a bicycle caused by the inner tube being pinched between the tire and the rim, typically due to underinflation or a hard impact. This results in two small, parallel holes in the tube, resembling a snakebite. Having your tires at the max allowable psi/barr will go a long way to prevent this, but you will experience more flats on a road vs mountain bike.
What road bike should I get? Canyon, Trek, Giant, etc. Are they all the same? Would a used bike tuned up be better than a new one aswell?
I have only personally ridden on Gary Fishers, Treks, cannondales, and GT bikes. Among those 4 brands that I rode, there wasn’t much difference between bikes made with similar materials and components other than price. A used bike that’s been tuned up is just as good as a new one. As a teenager in the 1990’s my first bike was a 10 speed Raleigh from the 60’s. I got the bike for free and had to replace the tires, tubes, brakes, gears and chain. I was lucky that the front and rear derailleurs were in good condition after all that time, those are a bit more pricey to fix. I’ve purchased many high end bikes used for cheap because people with tons of money to burn want something fancy, then end up never using the damn things except to ride around their neighborhood. If you’re just starting out, get a used bike. This way if you decide it isn’t for you, you haven’t spent a mortgage payment on the damn thing. Something like this is likely up your alley brand new: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-3 The frame here I believe is an aluminum frame and it’s kind of what you would spend these days for something entry level. Trek and cannondale entry level bikes are even more expensive. The last road bike I had was a women’s specific trek, hybrid carbon fiber/aluminum. I spent $1400 on that bike new 20 years ago. I rode that bike for 20 years, and I would still have it if it hadn’t been stolen. If you properly maintain your bike it can last a lifetime.
When purchasing a bike, imagine a triangle. One side is cost, one side is strength, one side is speed. Pick two. A cheap strong bike sacrifices speed. A cheap fast bike sacrifices strength. A strong fast bike sacrifices money.
Do not shop for a new bike at department stores like walmart, target, or places like dicks sporting goods. The bikes get assembled by random minimum wage workers that don’t know what they are doing, you’ll end up with something that is poorly tuned right out of the box. New bikes generally need tweaking no matter what after being ridden for a while because the break/shifter cables stretch out a bit once you start riding. Find a local shop that only sells bikes. You might be able to find models that are a few years old, but still new at a better price than the latest bike to hit the market. Bike shops might also have a good selection of decent used bikes to sell too.
If you are considering a used bike, I would encourage you to find a well respected local bike shop that sells used bikes. Buying off Craigslist or other used item platforms can be fine too, but if you are just starting and don’t know much about bikes yet, it can be risky.
If you’d prefer a new bike, I might recommend a Canyon. They are a direct to consumer brand so the prices are typically quite good, and you get much better specs for the price than you would with brands that are not direct to consumer.
Canyon have just released an Endurace Allroad which is a fantastic entry-level road bike. The geometry (how the frame is arranged) is very friendly for newer riders, as it won’t have you stretched out in a very uncomfortable position. It has quite good components (parts) for the price. Unfortunately I think it is a little more expensive in the US vs in Europe.
Here is a video about the bike from a cycling YouTube channel that is quite good. They focus on discussing how bikes would work for regular people, not star athletes. https://youtu.be/KoEOayjg0B8
If you’re in Europe and you have access to Van Rysel, they also have some quite good entry level road bikes. The same channel as above (Cade Media) have some videos about them.
Happy to answer more questions if you’d like.
Edit to add: in the video they criticize Canyon for the component sizes. I agree with this to an extent. They definitely exaggerate the scale of the effect. For example they mention a person buying a 2XS being on 40 cm width handlebars and Francis holds his arms out extremely wide. In reality this isn’t a super big deal. My Canyon is that size and came with those bars and it was not a big deal. After a year and a half I swapped them for narrower bars but had no issue with them in the meantime. So in the end - is it the very very best component sizing? No. Is it bad? Also no. It’s fine.
In my opinion you should get a used steel frame road bike in good condition that’s reasonably sized for you, and then take it to a bike shop to get it tuned up and to get a bike fit done. Once you have a season or two of riding under your belt then you could consider something newer and fancier and lighter.
The same rules apply about over training, ease into it, it will take time for your joints/ligaments/butt to adjust and there is no substitute for time in the saddle.
I am also an ex-runner. You will want a road bike for your uses. Unless it is a total piece of junk, the brand does not matter. So don’t buy a bike from a department store, but any reputable brand (and even some that aren’t very well-known) are just fine. The truth is, most of them are made in the same few factories anyway, then labeled with their brand. Fit is terribly, terribly important though. If the bike doesn’t fit, you have nothing. And if you buy used, make sure you take it in to get a thorough tune up. If you have a bicycle collective where you live, they will restore older bikes, tune them, and sell them, which is ideal.
There might be an equivalent of C25K, but IMO, you don’t need it. Once you get a bike that fits and functions, just go ride a lot. As one who has finished quite a few marathons and century rides, the century rides are honestly a lot easier.
Let me ask you this:
Are you looking for a bike purely for fitness, or do you have plans to get groceries with it, commute with it, go off-roading with it?
There’s a massive range in bikes and what they can do… the joke that you always have “N + 1” bikes, isn’t really a joke!
I’ve got a 90s steel mountain bike that is my hauler, bad weather, all-year-round, “it’s only rain”, “it’s only mud”, bike… but it’s not practical for fitness/training.
I’ve got a folding bike that turns heads, but it’s the slowest bike I’ve got, and I wouldn’t dream of keeping it locked out front of a store for more than a second.
My last bike, however, is a gravel/road bike, and that thing is just for speed and distance. It’s got no fenders, no racks, but can take me hundreds of KM at a time for fun.
I’d probably have 5 other bikes if space and money weren’t a concern… so many bikes to do so many things!
Also, your goal to do a century in a few months as a runner, should be no problem! I went from ZERO riding experience only a few years ago to a metric century in under a month. A year later, 240+km in a single ride. This year, I hope to break 300km. Riding is fun! Enjoy, and yes, don’t overtrain!
If you already use a Garmin device, the Garmin Cycling Coach (free version) works great, and can custom tailor your training to meet your goal, and will even adjust the schedule based on your progress and/or fitness levels.
I plan to look for a bike for fitness and maybe commuting aswell.
Also, your goal to do a century in a few months as a runner, should be no problem! I went from ZERO riding experience only a few years ago to a metric century in under a month. A year later, 240+km in a single ride. This year, I hope to break 300km. Riding is fun! Enjoy, and yes, don’t overtrain!
I’m a pretty shit runner but compared to the population, its above average. About overtraining, how many times in a week do most people bike for fitness? Is cycling everyday pretty normal? I’m planning to do marathon rides 3x a week for now and slowly increase frequency in a week. My 15 mi ride was because I got hungry so I don’t know yet my potential.
About overtraining, how many times in a week do most people bike for fitness? Is cycling everyday pretty normal?
I can’t speak for most people, but Garmin’s training coach had me at 5 days a week (two rest days). The rest and recovery can be just as, if not more important, than the training!
But you could ride every day, with a few days being at higher intensity or intervals, and the others are either a recovery pace or “zone 2”.