• RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    Seriously. I’ve had discussions with people since the election about how they say it was stolen. Until there’s hard receipts, then it’s not even worth the time considering it to me.

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      8 days ago

      I mean that’s the issue, that’s also why this case that’s going on is so huge. There’s so many statistical anomalies that it’s nearly impossible that he won every battleground state…but there’s been no smoking gun. There’s never been solid enough evidence to warrant a court case. Hopefully we get the ‘hard receipts’ your looking for in this court case

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        7 days ago

        Also, it’s kinda fucking hard to get the receipts when a bunch of election officials were very possibly in on it. And the secretaries of state for said swing states might not be doing everything on the up-and-up (see: literally everything about how Brian Kemp - the current Governor of Georgia - orchestrated his own election).

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        8 days ago

        Also can we talk about how data even comes to be? Who tf is paying for all these “hard receipts”? Who’s doing the work, who’s analyzing it, who has the access to everything needed to even do the work? The information is obviously being obfuscated and destroyed, like people asking for “hard receipts” think US fascism actually keeps their receipts when no fascist government has ever allowed contradictory information to spread or even exist? People seem to both love data and refuse to accept it’s so easily hidden, destroyed and changed in such an opaque environment. The only time “hard receipts” ever exist is in a completely transparent and forthcoming environment. Honestly most of what we all believe has no “hard receipts” they’re just accepted because it looks and feels right and we have some “soft receipts” to prove to others our feelings are more feelings than theirs

        Control over media is a tenant of fascism

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        8 days ago

        The statistical anomalies are made up. They sound excellent plausible, but turn go and verify any of the actual numbers. Swing states really weren’t any different from other states. They’re not real discrepancies.

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      8 days ago

      And even then, I’m not sure what it would accomplish. You’re not going to undo Trump’s inauguration. At best, it could protect the integrity of the next election, but now there are other options available to undermine it.

      Meanwhile, elections since then have swung hard against Trump supporters, including one in Wisconsin where Elon dumped a small fortune and made a personal appearance. If they’re so good at rigging machines, why aren’t they continuing to use this ability?