Review of Gnome 40 desktop environment, tested in Fedora 34 beta, covering look and feel, ergonomics and many associated problems in the default design, new Activities, Gnome Tweaks, Extensions, desktop scaling, performance, search, tour, and more
The author seems to not get how Gnome in its default is meant to be used. Opening applications is not very efficient if you do it with your mouse but this part of Gnome is incredibly efficient when the keyboard is used. Moreover, that the dock is now further away is something that the Gnome designers have become aware of and planned fixes are in the pipeline for Gnome 41.
Of course the author also has some fair points. Extensions would be better of to be updated and downloaded via the systems package manager as otherwise updating them might break them.
That files does not give any default files to create by default I find a bit idiotic too but this functionality exists you just need to add a file to the template folder.
The first sentence struck me also when I read the first part about the “minimizing” and “maximizing” buttons. GNOME has it’s own UX models, and if you try to force different models onto it, of course it’s going to be a bad experience.
Also, I think the negativity and dismissiveness is something which is uncalled for. There is a lot to objectively appreciate, even if one doesn’t like it for their own usage, for example that mobile users will quickly feel comfortable or that it is by far the best touchscreen interface.
Dude why would I use Gnome if I want to use my keyboard? A tiling wm is more customizable and lightweight and significantly more efficent. The point of a DE is to be easily accessible and convenient.
tiling wm requires time to set it up, most people aren’t gonna do that. also things like automounting and configuring screens without having to touch a config file is much appreciated. imagine using a laptop, going somewhere and you plug in a screen and for it to work nicely you have to touch a config file. not very convenient.
You need to setup say bspwm and dwm, sure, but i3 just works. Also if we are going to talk about most people, most people also aten’t going to deal with remembering keybindings. They will just want to click around, so Gnome is also inconvenient.
For clarification I’m not saying Gnome is objectively bad and you shouldn’t use it, however I personally feel like it falls short on some parts as a DE.
To be ussable Gnome requires time to set up too. Looks like Gnome is for some kind of tablet laptop hybrids. On a pc it is a pain to use out of the box.
I did not mean that you do literally everything with a keyboard.
What is quicker for opening an application? Going to the app overview finding the application and then clicking on it or quickly moving my hands to the keyboard (especially when using a laptop) and typing the application name + enter key?
A tiling WM renders my computer unusable for other people to use so it only is an option for a machine that only I will ever use.
Moreover, that the dock is now further away is something that the Gnome designers have become aware of and planned fixes are in the pipeline for Gnome 41.
Source? Overall I like the changes made except for the dock movement, would be great if my one gripe was being improved
The author seems to not get how Gnome in its default is meant to be used. Opening applications is not very efficient if you do it with your mouse but this part of Gnome is incredibly efficient when the keyboard is used. Moreover, that the dock is now further away is something that the Gnome designers have become aware of and planned fixes are in the pipeline for Gnome 41.
Of course the author also has some fair points. Extensions would be better of to be updated and downloaded via the systems package manager as otherwise updating them might break them.
That files does not give any default files to create by default I find a bit idiotic too but this functionality exists you just need to add a file to the template folder.
The first sentence struck me also when I read the first part about the “minimizing” and “maximizing” buttons. GNOME has it’s own UX models, and if you try to force different models onto it, of course it’s going to be a bad experience. Also, I think the negativity and dismissiveness is something which is uncalled for. There is a lot to objectively appreciate, even if one doesn’t like it for their own usage, for example that mobile users will quickly feel comfortable or that it is by far the best touchscreen interface.
Dude why would I use Gnome if I want to use my keyboard? A tiling wm is more customizable and lightweight and significantly more efficent. The point of a DE is to be easily accessible and convenient.
tiling wm requires time to set it up, most people aren’t gonna do that. also things like automounting and configuring screens without having to touch a config file is much appreciated. imagine using a laptop, going somewhere and you plug in a screen and for it to work nicely you have to touch a config file. not very convenient.
You need to setup say bspwm and dwm, sure, but i3 just works. Also if we are going to talk about most people, most people also aten’t going to deal with remembering keybindings. They will just want to click around, so Gnome is also inconvenient. For clarification I’m not saying Gnome is objectively bad and you shouldn’t use it, however I personally feel like it falls short on some parts as a DE.
To be ussable Gnome requires time to set up too. Looks like Gnome is for some kind of tablet laptop hybrids. On a pc it is a pain to use out of the box.
I did not mean that you do literally everything with a keyboard.
What is quicker for opening an application? Going to the app overview finding the application and then clicking on it or quickly moving my hands to the keyboard (especially when using a laptop) and typing the application name + enter key?
A tiling WM renders my computer unusable for other people to use so it only is an option for a machine that only I will ever use.
Fair point
Source? Overall I like the changes made except for the dock movement, would be great if my one gripe was being improved
I should have better checked but on this Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/mengst/installed_fedora_34_beta_and_impressed_with_gnome/) there are links to multiple issues regarding it:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1666
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1626
https://gitlab.com/justperfection.channel/just-perfection-gnome-shell-desktop/-/issues/38#
if actually it doesn’t get changed waiting for an update for dash to dock should help.