Please ELI5. What does this mean?
There’s going to be a similar app to Organic Maps (which was a fork of MAPS.ME). Unknown yet if it is going to be better or worse.
This is great that they’re forking but do that have to continue the OSS tradition of terrible app names?
The name was voted by the community. There were a lot of very good names that unfortunately were already being used by other projects. I’m not a fan of the final choice either.
When you hold a vote you get suggestions like Mappy mcmapface. Actually, that could work…
And, It’s not even unique.
On the iOS App Store, for example, there is:
- MyCOMAP
- COMAP
- ComAp Helpcentre
- MYCOMAP BALANCING
- and two apps from a company named COMAP S.A.
Yes, it was pointed out that CoMaps was also the name of a business operating in… maps. So if the project gets traction, they’ll likely be sued into a better name.
Magic Earth enters the chat.
CoMaps is a good name, wtf
I like the name too, but I tried searching for it and I got results for compass. Lol
Disable your auto spellchecker!
I mean, it’s new.
Roman @rtsisyk revoked Github owner permissions from Alexander @biodranik and Viktor @vng and granted such permissions to the community contributor @pastk. This triggered Github’s automatic “sanctions” check and the whole Github OM organization was automatically archived and admin access was blocked until OM’s appeal was reviewed. It was unknown whether and when Github would review Organic Maps’ appeal and unblock the repositories, so 2 weeks later the project migrated to the self-hosted git.omaps.dev/organicmaps instance, using the free and open source software forge Forgejo.
What the fuck? GitHub blocking the account because of automated security evaluation triggering (probably a good thing) but no review over two weeks (obviously a very bad thing)?
Does it work outside of CO?
Slowclap
So when does it show its head in F-Droid ?
Lemmy post: CoMaps now available on F-Droid
I saw that thanks. Unfortunately if you want to have it working in Android Auto you’ll have to wait for the Google Play version.
Their README.md says soon but there isn’t an official release yet. Looking at their Issues tab, they are doing a lot of work.
https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/releases
Build instructions are available. I am excited and might just do this:
https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/INSTALL.md#android-app
“User-first” and “public company” don’t go together at all. That’s just the reality. Now we just have to hope the fork doesn’t die.
Cause i had to go looking for it: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps
Being a private corporation should have given up the scam.
itsfoss would have mentioned that if they weren’t also a private corporation.
Organic Maps had Kayak referral links since November 17, 2023.
After selecting some hotels, you can see an experimental “Details on Kayak” button that opens the Kayak website with photos and reviews about the selected hotel. If you make any booking using this button, Organic Maps receives a small referral bonus to fund the project development.
https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/releases/tag/2023.11.17-17-android
Whats wrong with that?
Because if there is proprietary code that is compiled, but can’t be read, it’s hard to know if there is data harvesting that people can’t opt out of. And proprietary code being added paves the way for more proprietary code. If this is an incorrect understanding, someone correct me.
I dont trust someone who has affiliate links in code to not be selling unique identifiers like ip adresses etc.
Linux has a great history of splitting hairs over philosophical purity and practical practices.
Honestly, a fork is a probably a perfect panacea. The project will become a pair; one procuring funding at the price of it’s soul, the other persisting as perfect (and pitifully prehistoric, save the proactive pedestrian). For a period both will produce positive momentum, but the paid product will peak higher and sooner, and fall precipitously. After the pitiable putrid product performs as well as pious poop, the persistent one will proceed to provide.
Tl;dr: ppppppppppppppppppp
Damn.
I absolutely hate open source drama. I don’t want to read your diary when I use your software, I want it to work.
I’m not even against running a parallel for-profit for extra features or corporate sponsorships. People gotta eat. I’d much rather have that than deal with following sob stories about ruthless leadership, ego clashes in contributors and endless forking because everybody thinks everybody else sucks.
The more I hang out around here, where OSS is a bit of a religion, the more disenchanted I am with it and the more I think the big game changer for this space is getting contributions on usability, production and business rather than code.
What you call drama is a healthy community fighting against violated principles. So, according to you, what’s the alternative? Just keep working with broken principles and never complain? Allow a bunch of greedy members to take over the project?
If you have paid attention, basically community always win: libreoffice vs openoffice, mariadb over mysql, jenkins over hudson, x.org over xfree86, ffmpeg over libav, nextcloud over owncloud, etc.
Right to fork is one of the most important to keep project in community hands and follow declared principles. Some forget that and are just doomed to repeat the history.
Disclaimer: I work on iDempiere who forked adempiere because of community disagreements, which also forked from compiere because of corporative takeout.
Long live to CoMaps!
Well, the point is I don’t want CoMaps to win out over Organic Maps, I want some open source alternative to win out over Google Maps. Which is why I’d hesitate to say that LibreOffice “won” over anything, Google and Microsoft seem to be doing most of the winning in that particular space.
In a healthy community public arguments about “violated principles” wouldn’t be a frequent occurrence and wouldn’t lead to atomization of projects. I’m not taking sides on this particular example (mostly because I can’t be bothered to look up the drama). But I am saying that besides the confusion and negativity caused by seeing open source developers constantly bicker about their violated principles, it can be a major setback for the perception of reliability of open source software overall. For an app you install that mostly works no matter what it’s one thing, but if you integrate a piece of software into a workflow and it suddenly spawns two different pieces of software with different splinters of the original team that can be a significant disruption and if you fear significant disruptions you may hesitate to rely on that particular thing in the first place.
So do I think there shouldn’t be a right to fork? Not at all. That’s the whole point of open source.
Do I think it’s overall a negative for the open source ecosystem that major projects break up due to their contributors being unable to come to a decision about the direction of the project? Absolutely.
You have some points but I think you’re overexposed to forks and drama by being in these communities. Most OSS works and steadily improves and becomes a reliable tool. Closed software often gets better but often gets worse with bloat, subscription models, etc. I think that closed software does more harm to the utility and reliability of their products than open software.
A streamer using OBS doesn’t worry about drama or forks, but they know they have to switch to Windows 11 with new hardware requirements and ads built in. A commuter using the Transit app (OSM map data) doesn’t care about where the maps came from, but they know when the app has a bug, they have nowhere to turn to get it fixed. A 3D animator sees Blender steadily improve and knows if they switch to Adobe, they’ll have to pay increasingly high subscription costs to keep using it. Any individual project is not forking all the time. You just know about it when it happens to any project, whether you use the software or not.
These shareholders have reportedly used the project’s donation funds for personal expenses, like holiday trips, raising serious concerns about financial transparency.
That thing is definitely a problem though.
You know, wherever you are, drama is inescapable. At least with OSS the community seems to have control over the drama.
contributions on usability, production
Isn’t that made in code?
