Nope, and not going to. Why? Because I was told the same about the new trek movies. They. Sucked. So badly. I was told the same about discovery. It was cringe bad, hateful, spiteful, it was horrible. Then I was told the same about Picard. And hey, it’s Picard, this MUST be like TNG, right? RIGHT?
Picard was godawful. Season one ruined Picard and Data. It ruined seven of nine. It ruined Starfleet, it ruined the federation. Picard is now a bumbling old man who gets put in his place by women because … I dunno. Sheer fucking hubris ! Because that’s how we talk now in star trek. Season two managed to fuck over Guinan and Q and the Borg. It was aweful. All built up history is just optional now, just ignore every, do what we want just so we can tell vapid dumb stories. Then. Season three… The entire cast of TNG. All ruined. Beverly, who once disobeyed an order to help a terrorist is now a black ops cold blooded killer or something, whatever…They ruined the fucking enterprise herself. And the entire Borg thing (thanks for ruining it twice in a row) and the sad sad changeling storyline…
I’m done.
Star trek was important to me, it shaped my life, it made me who I am today. Believe me, I try to be a better guy every day because of star trek. Classic trek, that is.
That’s why it is pissing me off so much that nu trek has been treated so piss poorly by people that didn’t know trekz didn’t care about it, and just wanted to used it as a platform for their political stance. You’ve fucking ruined something great and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Edit: “you” meaning paramount, and instill have hopes that the Orville will come back but please no more season3 crap, they too went the nu trek way with loads of CGI pew pew and vapid stories
Also not really sure about that whole being put in his place by women comment… Is it just that you feel he was put in his place at all, or that it was a woman who did it? Cause if it’s the latter…
Anyways I feel that would be a mistake not to at least give SNW or lower decks a try as you never actually know until you try, but I’m not going to sit here and try and convince you beyond saying what I already have if you have already made up your mind. Then again, it’s probably a good idea if things being different upset you this much. All the best.
And don’t worry I know you didn’t mean that I personally ruined star trek.
Eh, you’re correct about Voyager being bad for the Borg. Then again Voyager was the weakest of all classic treks.
On the comment of Picard “being put in his place by a woman”: I have no problem with female leaders. Admiral Nechayev was nice, Janeway could have been so much more… The problem is that the nu trek show runners on multiple occasions talked about their… Political leanings and literally said that they don’t care about trek, don’t care what it was and literally that trek is their political platform, and it shows.
It’s not about that Picard gets dressed down by a woman, it’s about that women suddenly are all can’t-do-wrong Mary sues whereas the men are all bumbling no-goods. Also notice that women mostly behave like on-my-high-horse assholes. Again, “sheer fucking hubris” kinda says it all. Can you imagine any Admiral saying THAT in TNG/DS9?
Not to mention the graphic violence. “But it happened that one time in TNG too!”. Yeah, there is this one crazy episode there amongst hundreds whereas nutrek just had your daily dose of violence. I’ll watch “the boys” for that (I do recommend if you’re into dark humor)
This is not star trek. And no, I’m not going to give it my time anymore
@phoenixz@startrek IMHO, Strange New Worlds is the most “Star Trek” show since TNG. It really captures the spirit of the original show.
(I am not a fan of Picard or Discovery, largely because I feel they don’t have the elements I liked about past shows — they are too dark and pessimistic for my tastes.)
I was told the same about discovery, then about picardz them about lower decks… I’ve wasted enough time on shitty modern trek, I don’t believe it anymore.
Nope, and not going to. Why? Because I was told the same about the new trek movies. They. Sucked. So badly. I was told the same about discovery. It was cringe bad, hateful, spiteful, it was horrible. Then I was told the same about Picard. And hey, it’s Picard, this MUST be like TNG, right? RIGHT?
Picard was godawful. Season one ruined Picard and Data. It ruined seven of nine. It ruined Starfleet, it ruined the federation. Picard is now a bumbling old man who gets put in his place by women because … I dunno. Sheer fucking hubris ! Because that’s how we talk now in star trek. Season two managed to fuck over Guinan and Q and the Borg. It was aweful. All built up history is just optional now, just ignore every, do what we want just so we can tell vapid dumb stories. Then. Season three… The entire cast of TNG. All ruined. Beverly, who once disobeyed an order to help a terrorist is now a black ops cold blooded killer or something, whatever…They ruined the fucking enterprise herself. And the entire Borg thing (thanks for ruining it twice in a row) and the sad sad changeling storyline…
I’m done.
Star trek was important to me, it shaped my life, it made me who I am today. Believe me, I try to be a better guy every day because of star trek. Classic trek, that is.
That’s why it is pissing me off so much that nu trek has been treated so piss poorly by people that didn’t know trekz didn’t care about it, and just wanted to used it as a platform for their political stance. You’ve fucking ruined something great and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Edit: “you” meaning paramount, and instill have hopes that the Orville will come back but please no more season3 crap, they too went the nu trek way with loads of CGI pew pew and vapid stories
In fairness, voyager ruined the Borg, not Picard.
Also not really sure about that whole being put in his place by women comment… Is it just that you feel he was put in his place at all, or that it was a woman who did it? Cause if it’s the latter…
Anyways I feel that would be a mistake not to at least give SNW or lower decks a try as you never actually know until you try, but I’m not going to sit here and try and convince you beyond saying what I already have if you have already made up your mind. Then again, it’s probably a good idea if things being different upset you this much. All the best.
And don’t worry I know you didn’t mean that I personally ruined star trek.
Eh, you’re correct about Voyager being bad for the Borg. Then again Voyager was the weakest of all classic treks.
On the comment of Picard “being put in his place by a woman”: I have no problem with female leaders. Admiral Nechayev was nice, Janeway could have been so much more… The problem is that the nu trek show runners on multiple occasions talked about their… Political leanings and literally said that they don’t care about trek, don’t care what it was and literally that trek is their political platform, and it shows.
It’s not about that Picard gets dressed down by a woman, it’s about that women suddenly are all can’t-do-wrong Mary sues whereas the men are all bumbling no-goods. Also notice that women mostly behave like on-my-high-horse assholes. Again, “sheer fucking hubris” kinda says it all. Can you imagine any Admiral saying THAT in TNG/DS9?
Not to mention the graphic violence. “But it happened that one time in TNG too!”. Yeah, there is this one crazy episode there amongst hundreds whereas nutrek just had your daily dose of violence. I’ll watch “the boys” for that (I do recommend if you’re into dark humor)
This is not star trek. And no, I’m not going to give it my time anymore
@phoenixz @startrek IMHO, Strange New Worlds is the most “Star Trek” show since TNG. It really captures the spirit of the original show.
(I am not a fan of Picard or Discovery, largely because I feel they don’t have the elements I liked about past shows — they are too dark and pessimistic for my tastes.)
I was told the same about discovery, then about picardz them about lower decks… I’ve wasted enough time on shitty modern trek, I don’t believe it anymore.